Thoughts on cycle?

**RoachForLife19** · 12-08-2008, 02:15 PM

Its been awhile since Ive done all my research but I did a cycle similar to this a year or so ago and it worked well. I already have lots of leftover and wanted to do a 2nd and final cycle.

Please see the attached spreadsheet and let me know thoughts.

Thanks guys!

PT · 12-08-2008, 02:41 PM

you obviously know what your doing and the cycle looks great. good luck and let us know how it goes

**Mulciber** · 12-08-2008, 02:42 PM

you have the winny running 10 weeks..id run the winny 10-15..

get back to it in a sec..my eyes hurt..lol

**Mulciber** · 12-08-2008, 02:44 PM

yeah winny is long for me but looks good

**RoachForLife19** · 12-08-2008, 03:29 PM

So just the last 5 weeks on the winny, ok cool.

Also last time I ran creatine (5-10g) the entire time, is that 1) worth doing 2) waste of money 3) any other thoughts? mono vs esther during cycle 4) worth cycling off during pct?

Also Ive been using clen recently but did not back during last cycle, its okay to run thru entire cycle, correct?

Thanks guys!

**Mulciber** · 12-08-2008, 03:47 PM

yeah id run the winny the last (6)..
cant remember which test..anyway,run it 2 weeks past enanthate or 18 days past cyp and jump right on pct after..

**RoachForLife19** · 12-09-2008, 07:05 AM

Any thoughts on the creatine and clen ? Thanks

**hankdiesel** · 12-09-2008, 08:03 AM

Winny for six weeks is good. Why are you runnning clen 22 weeks? That is crazy. I don't know why you're running it at all because this looks like a bulking cycle. At least the first good bit of it does. Why not just do a few weeks of clen towards the end while you're running the winny. What ever you decide to do start the dose low and ramp it up as you go. I always do two weeks on followed by two weeks off.

**RoachForLife19** · 12-09-2008, 08:24 AM

Yeh Ill change my winny to just 6 weeks at the end.

As for the clen , you can run clen straight without stopping if you take keto/benedryl on wks 3 and 4 every night. This downgrades the receptors allowing you to still get the benefit of the clen during this time.

I have been taking clen for nearly a year off and on, and no longer do ramp ups. The first day I do have shakes but I can take it for just a day.

As for the cycle, yes it is a bulking cycle but id like to keep as lean as possible. The clen, raising my metabloism rate, I didnt think would hurt me during bulking, and in fact, would help me with eating more?? Or is that wrong?

Thanks