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    Massive prop pain and alittle swelling?help?

    I injected both some prop into both my quads on separate days and my legs are in so much pain and there is alittle swelling there is no heat or redness though. Is this common I almost can't walk unless im on advil and it isn't too nice. This definitely isn't virgin muscle but it is the first time injecting prop.

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    its very normal from prop vergin muscle u should c the pain from winny.
    just try to inject slowly sometiemes injecting fast could b a problem. if u can try to get some b12 for pain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnybigguns View Post
    I injected both some prop into both my quads on separate days and my legs are in so much pain and there is alittle swelling there is no heat or redness though. Is this common I almost can't walk unless im on advil and it isn't too nice. This definitely isn't virgin muscle but it is the first time injecting prop.
    It's pretty normal. Just follow z track and my inj protocol and this will minimise PIP greatly, even in a virgin muscle.

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    It's definitely not virgin muscle. I've just never injected prop. How much do you guys recommend to cut it?

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    This is definitely worse then my first injection

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    Ive got my first Prop on the way, and Ive read alot of posts where people have alot of the same pain that your having. Not as excited about it as I was at first. Good Luck and I hope it all works out for you.

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    cut your prop 50/50 with sterile oil. Inject slowly and this should help 100%
    Keep in mind prop is known for severe PIP

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    Could I cut it with another steroid ?

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    ehhh like what? how much?

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    using sterile oil will work the best as it has no hormones and crystals for the body to dissolve. ar-r sells it i think. Say your prop is 1/2 ml shots, well add 1/2 ml sterile oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnybigguns View Post
    Could I cut it with another steroid?
    I dont know, what else are you stacking it with?

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    With tren too. But I was thinking cut back my prop dose and maybe mixing it with some test e

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    i would try to mix in some tren with the prop to see if it helps, if the pain is still there id get some cottonseed oil from ar-r and just cut with 1/4-1/2 the amount your injectin.
    i had the same problem with my test e and now my shots are completely painless

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    Normal, it wil go away after some time. Or use another muscle for injection.

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    When I shot i shot 1cc tren and 1cc prop in one needle

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    how many mg's is that of each?

    and by virgin muscle they mean virgin to prop ester. It's a different beast. I felt nothing at all from test E, tren A, or primo, but winny and test propionate both crush me hard.

    Mine is just as bad as yours, if it's a leg injection i can barely walk for about 2 days then it slowly tapers down. I diluted my prop down with sterile oil. 100mg/ml = death, 50mg/ml = tolerable.

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    ^correct cutting is the best way. Do not use b12 either it will not work.

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    my tren and prop are both 100mg/ml

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    i had a lot of pain with my prop also . pinned 50mg ed at 100mg/ml adding the cotton seed oil really helped, i would add .75 ml of oil to the .5 ml prop and was pretty much painless. believe it or not but the difference from .5 to .75 of oil was huge on cutting the pain . also put under warm water for a min and a half before injecting

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    What do you do draw both into the needle then heat it and shake it sort of a deal?

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    yea i draw .5 ml of prop then .75 ml oil then run under warm water . would work same for any dose example 1 ml prop 1 to 1.5 ml oil

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    Porp hurts soo bad! im glad to hear its normal for a lot of pain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEOSUP View Post
    yea i draw .5 ml of prop then .75 ml oil then run under warm water . would work same for any dose example 1 ml prop 1 to 1.5 ml oil
    I'm doing my first prop cycle. It hurts yes, but I read about heating the gear and it helped a lot. I'm heating my gear from now on. Also, a lot of people move the needle around because they're anxious - ah that would be me. It makes it worse, a lot worse. Try to keep it as still as possible.

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    the first time i injected 2cc's of prop into my thigh i could barley walk for about a week. the muscle was so freaking sore that i could barley make it up a set of steps. you'll be fine and i asure you it gets easier. the 1st few times you inject into a virgin muscle that happens but it does get easier and better bro so just hang in there
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    im confused. if i want 1ml (100mg) prop eod i just put another 1 ml or so of oil in the barrel which would be 2ml total eod and it would cut down on the prop pain?

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