Thread: First cycle, Test E.
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12-07-2008, 03:17 PM #1
First cycle, Test E.
age: 24
height: 6'1
weight: 260
bf% : not sure around 10-15%
diet summary/# meals per day: Meat, tuna. 4 times a day
years lifting / workout split: 9 years, 4-6 times a week
cycle experience: none
pct/estrogen control knowledge: none
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...) : size, strength
i wanna try a Test E cycle.
16 week cycle.
1-16 test-E 2ml 2XW
PCT, 14 days after my last injection.
i'd like to use Arimidex for my AILast edited by thebeast71; 12-07-2008 at 03:24 PM.
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12-07-2008, 04:08 PM #2Scammer
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dont really think 16 weeks is necessary first run and all.. 12 would be fine.
adex through cycle would be fine
read some of the stickies in the pct forum and learn about..anti-e's... AI's/serms..
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12-07-2008, 04:35 PM #3
6'1" 260 and only 10-15% bf........might be a little higher than that or maybe you a natural beast. 10-12 weeks would be plenty. It is nice to have an AI on hand during cycle but only use it if necessary.
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12-07-2008, 06:31 PM #4
well several people told me after 12 weeks is when the test really starts to kick in, so thats y they say do 16 weeks.
this is what i found for AI's and serms : written by one8nine
AI – The male body naturally wants a 10:1 ratio of testosterone to estrogen. Normal men have about 10mg and 1mg of estrogen every day. Testosterone is produced, and then converted into estrogen in the aromatize enzyme. Just as an example, if one’s Testosterone levels rise to 100mg in one day, one’s body will try to appease that 10:1 ratio and have 10mg of estrogen. Now, with 10mg of estrogen you have the same amount of estrogen as an average woman. An AI greatly reduces or stops this conversion by suppressing aromatize enzymes. Examples: Letrozole , Arimidex , Aromasin , and Proviron
SERM – One can basically think of these as empty placeholders, they look close enough to estrogen that they fill the spots in the tissues that estrogen want to park, so your body will not be able to get signal from the estrogen, effectively giving you time to rid your body of these nasty hormones before they have any devastating effects. Ex: Nolvadex
SOOOO Adex should be fine for my PCT. and i should keep a thing of nova around druing my cycle encase gyno pops up?
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12-07-2008, 06:35 PM #5
Adex only is NOT a good PCT.
Thats not what 189 claimed either...
Maybe you should re-read his PCT thread...
You should also know that Nolva reduces the effectiveness of Adex as well...
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12-07-2008, 06:36 PM #6
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12-07-2008, 06:36 PM #7
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12-07-2008, 06:37 PM #8
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12-07-2008, 06:44 PM #9
nah its been years since i got my BF done.
15-25% sounds like to much..that would meen i have around 60 punds of pure fat right?
and that doesnt correct.
thats y i lowered it to 10-15%
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12-07-2008, 06:50 PM #10
I knew it...........do some cardio
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12-07-2008, 06:57 PM #11
Well your 6'1 and 260. So if your not stronger than a middle linebacker in the NFL, yes you have 60 pounds of fat.
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12-07-2008, 06:58 PM #12
You need to have it measured, or at least post some pics so we can see what you're working with. Small differences in bf% make a huge difference. If you were 6'1", 260lbs, and 10%bf, you would be just about ready to step on stage.
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12-07-2008, 07:02 PM #13
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12-07-2008, 07:04 PM #14
I like nolva and clomid, and an ai for pct, preferably aromasin .
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12-07-2008, 07:06 PM #15
big thank you, you have been helpfull and everyone who has givin me advice. i gota go to work. ill try and add some pictures 2morrow.
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12-08-2008, 12:23 PM #16
ok so nolva and aromasin would be good got my PCT?(good too have an AI and serm in PCT, correct?)
and i should take a AI while im on my cycle right? and if so would Letro work?
i i keep seeing thinks like this
"Nolva+Clomid (#wks):
40/40/20/20/20/20
50/50/25/25"
is this the amount there taking each week?Last edited by thebeast71; 12-08-2008 at 12:32 PM.
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12-08-2008, 12:32 PM #17Scammer
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each day for those weeks
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12-08-2008, 12:34 PM #18
thebeast71;4327855]ok so nolva and aromasin would be good got my PCT?(good too have an AI and serm in PCT, correct?)
and i should take a AI while im on my cycle right? and if so would Letro work? or can i use the same AI that im gonna use in my PCT?
i i keep seeing thinks like this
"Nolva+Clomid (#wks):
40/40/20/20/20/20
50/50/25/25"
is this the amount there taking each week?
**** i ment to edit my earlyer post not make a new one
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12-08-2008, 12:48 PM #19
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12-08-2008, 12:50 PM #20
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12-08-2008, 12:52 PM #21
^agreed, I don't recommend letro for anything but gyno reversal if called for.
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12-08-2008, 01:02 PM #22
so could i use aromasin during my cycle and for my PCT?
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12-08-2008, 01:04 PM #23
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12-08-2008, 01:06 PM #24
dont i need a serm also with my AI in the PCT?
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12-08-2008, 01:09 PM #25
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12-08-2008, 01:10 PM #26
I know this is a lot to absorb, perhaps you should consider spending a night or two in a Holiday Inn Express.
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12-08-2008, 01:11 PM #27
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12-08-2008, 01:12 PM #28
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12-08-2008, 01:12 PM #29
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12-08-2008, 01:13 PM #30
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12-08-2008, 01:13 PM #31
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12-08-2008, 01:57 PM #32
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12-08-2008, 02:52 PM #33
hi bro,i posted something in the other thread,im a little busy to write something big at the minute but hope the post helps,i own a gym and its busy here tonight
Test E/Dbol Cycle
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12-08-2008, 09:46 PM #34
age: 24
height: 6'1
weight: 260
bf% : not sure around 10-15%
diet summary/# meals per day: Meat, tuna. 4 times a day
years lifting / workout split: 9 years, 4-6 times a week
cycle experience: none
pct/estrogen control knowledge: none
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...) : size, strength
12 week cycle
1-12 Test-E
2-12 arimidex ED?
PCT: 14 days after my last injection
1-12aromasin
1-12 novla
how does this look?
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12-08-2008, 09:49 PM #35
add some dosages
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12-08-2008, 09:58 PM #37
[QUOTE=thebeast71;4328663]age: 24
height: 6'1
weight: 260
bf% : not sure around 10-15%
diet summary/# meals per day: Meat, tuna. 4 times a day
years lifting / workout split: 9 years, 4-6 times a week
cycle experience: none
pct/estrogen control knowledge: none
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...) : size, strength
12 week cycle
1-12 Test-E
2-12 arimidex -10mg's daily-
PCT: 14 days after my last injection
1-12aromasin - havent found a good dose yet-
1-12 novla -10 mg daily-
how does this look?
EDIT___added doses
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12-08-2008, 09:59 PM #38
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12-08-2008, 10:01 PM #39
i added dosages
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12-08-2008, 10:02 PM #40
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here, but
PCT
wk 1-12 on aromasin and nolva? Bit overkill right?
Isn't the general consensus something like
wk 1-4 aromasin 25mg/ed
wk 1-2 nolva 40mg/ed
wk 3-4 nolva 2mg/ed
wk 1-2 clomid 50mg/ed
wk 3-4 clomid 25mg/edLast edited by fit4ever180; 12-10-2008 at 04:26 AM.
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