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    Pistons is offline New Member
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    need help asap 2

    age 24
    height 6 '2
    weight 180
    bf% dont know
    diet summary/# meals per day 4
    years lifting / workout split 1 year
    cycle experience none
    pct/estrogen control knowledge not much
    goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

    I want to gain about 20-25 pounds and be cut
    help im a newb

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    Mulciber is offline Scammer
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    well start by reading all the stickies..hit the educational forum.. read till you cant read no more..take a nap and repeat

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    Yeah from your last post, i can tell youre a newb...

    No worries though, youre in the right place.

    bf% (I need an answer. Guesstimate?!)
    diet summary/# meals per day (I need to see a SUMMARY! Write out everything youve eaten today, please include how much the food weighs as well.)

    years lifting / workout split (whats your split look like?)

    Also if you were to post a question, that would help as well...

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    6.2 180 your diet sucks.

    You need to learn how to eat then come back.

    Sorry for being so direct.

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    Pistons is offline New Member
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    body fat is around 15-18 percent
    diet summary - breakfast - sausage and eggs with slice of bread
    snack - banana , pomegranate juice
    lunch- 12 oz steak some shrimp and rice
    snack- banana, orange juice
    dinner- pasta, wheybolic
    i drink about 72oz of water daily and also use wheybolic after my workouts and probolic at night i work out about 6 days a week

    Mondays - Chest,Abs
    Tuesdays-Back,Abs
    Wednesdays-Triceps,Biceps
    Thursday- shoulders, legs
    Friday - off
    Sat- Chest, Abs
    Sun-Back, Abs

    if that is what you mean by workout split...
    my question is what cycle is best for me i want to gain 20 to 25 lbs of muscle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons View Post
    body fat is around 15-18 percent
    diet summary - breakfast - sausage and eggs with slice of bread
    snack - banana , pomegranate juice
    lunch- 12 oz steak some shrimp and rice
    snack- banana, orange juice
    dinner- pasta, wheybolic
    i drink about 72oz of water daily and also use wheybolic after my workouts and probolic at night i work out about 6 days a week


    Mondays - Chest,Abs
    Tuesdays-Back,Abs
    Wednesdays-Triceps,Biceps
    Thursday- shoulders, legs
    Friday - off
    Sat- Chest, Abs
    Sun-Back, Abs

    if that is what you mean by workout split...
    my question is what cycle is best for me i want to gain 20 to 25 lbs of muscle
    Everything in red sucks. Take that and post it in the diet form. See what changes you need to make and go from there.

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    Pistons is offline New Member
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    Do i have to eat that healthy just to start a cycle? if i want to gain mass? I dont plan on using anything for a long time just long enough to meet my goal. I dont want to become this giant monster just enough to be a little over 200 lbs and cut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons View Post
    body fat is around 15-18 percent
    diet summary - breakfast - sausage and eggs with slice of bread
    snack - banana , pomegranate juice
    lunch- 12 oz steak some shrimp and rice
    snack- banana, orange juice
    dinner- pasta, wheybolic
    i drink about 72oz of water daily and also use wheybolic after my workouts and probolic at night i work out about 6 days a week

    Mondays - Chest,Abs
    Tuesdays-Back,Abs
    Wednesdays-Triceps,Biceps
    Thursday- shoulders, legs
    Friday - off
    Sat- Chest, Abs
    Sun-Back, Abs

    if that is what you mean by workout split...
    my question is what cycle is best for me i want to gain 20 to 25 lbs of muscle
    and im no expert but working out your abs 4 days straight probably isnt helping, they need a rest too.
    maybe try something like this
    monday- chest, abs
    tuesday-legs, quads and hams
    wednesday-biceps triceps
    thursday-shoulders and calves
    friday- back and forearms

    and give yourself saturday and sunday to rest.
    thats just my opinion anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by melbgymnst View Post
    and im no expert but working out your abs 4 days straight probably isnt helping, they need a rest too.
    maybe try something like this
    monday- chest, abs
    tuesday-legs, quads and hams
    wednesday-biceps triceps
    thursday-shoulders and calves
    friday- back and forearms

    and give yourself saturday and sunday to rest.
    thats just my opinion anyway

    ive been hearing that abs are small muscles and recover fast and also the more you do them the better it is i dont know who to believe but so far its been workin pretty good i dont know

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    Overtraning. You workout chest and back sat. sun. then chest back. mon, tues. and shoulder and legs in same day is very hard. I just have a day just for quads.
    do something like this
    mon: chest,tricep
    tues: legs
    wedff
    Thurs: shoulders
    Fri: back, bicep
    Sat: off
    Sun: off
    add abs where ever. sometin like dat and swich up here and there.

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    I like

    Bi's and Chest
    Tris & Back
    Traps & shoulders
    Legs
    abs & extra cardio (i do cardio 4x a week besides this day.)

    It works for me...

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