First Cycle.....Primobolan or Masteron?

[TheGoodGuy]

Hey guys, I've probably been debating on taking roids for about 4 years now and have finally decided to do it. I choose these two cause from what I've read they show low side effects, low water retention, and mild but solid gains. I keep seeing where a lot of people say Test Eth is the only way to go for a first cycle... Is this because people usually get like 20+ lbs off their first use or is it somehow just better for you? If its just for the gains, I really only want to put on a good 8-10 lbs of solid mass right now. Plus my family has conformed with society and look at steroids as the greatest of all evils, and would probably disown me if they caught me on something. So again.... another reason why I'm not looking to gain 20+ lbs over 1 cycle.
I'm also up for different ideas.These two just seemed like the best route for me to take, but you all know way more than I do so any help would be awesome! Thanks guys!


Stats
Age = 21
Height = 5"11
Weight = 175 lbs
Waist = 29"
Arm's = 15.5 and 15.75"
BF% = 5-7% (not real sure on this one, but I know it's within that range.)

I've been training with weights for around 8 years. I eat really clean 5 days a week, monitoring all my macro nutrients throughout the day and eating around 6-8 small meals total. Healthy fats, high protein, and slow absorbed carbs. I reduce consumption of carbs throughout the day, and cutting them off by around 8PM.

[WARMachine]

Post that diet up with macros...

175 is a little on the small side as far as a good base goes...

Also, Primo and Mast without Test are not good choices... Your family will not know your on AAS as long as you keep your mouth shut bro. No need to be that paranoid.

[breakbones]

Test Should always be a first cycle

Test E or C 500mg/12 week

[T_Own]

if you don't want to bloat a lot you could just man up and do prop first cycle and shoot ed.

[TheGoodGuy]

Post that diet up with macros...

175 is a little on the small side as far as a good base goes...

Also, Primo and Mast without Test are not good choices... Your family will not know your on AAS as long as you keep your mouth shut bro. No need to be that paranoid.

Thanks for the fast reply!

Ya, I know 175 seems low even for all natural, but I do stay a really low body fat. I wouldn't say I was small though. without a spot, I can shoulder press 80's x 10, bench 225 x 10 etc.......Nothing amazing but, I just think 175 seems low cause I stay really cut.

I probably should of said this but as for my family knowing, my dad is a doctor and on top of that he was on roids back when they would prescribe them to anyone. I have about 4 friends in high school who went on Test Eth or Sus250 and he easily pointed them out to me. He looks for the spike of weight gain and water retention. He also knows how hard I trained just to get what I have, so If I throw 20+ lbs on, he'll know.

[WARMachine]

Yeah i didnt realize how low your BF% is...

Like T Own suggested a small dose of Test Prop pinned ED wouldnt have much water retention.

Maybe 50mgs ED for 8wks would suit you... With a proper PCT of course.

[TheGoodGuy]

Also what would Primo or Masteron do If i took them without Test?

[TheGoodGuy]

Yeah i didnt realize how low your BF% is...

Like T Own suggested a small dose of Test Prop pinned ED wouldnt have much water retention.

Maybe 50mgs ED for 8wks would suit you... With a proper PCT of course.

Could I do a small dose of Test Eth and get same results? or does it need to be Prop?

[WARMachine]

Yeah i suppose... Though IMO Prop gives much less water retention...

[TheGoodGuy]

Yeah i suppose... Though IMO Prop gives much less water retention...

Aaahhh ok, I didn't know that.. Well i'll look into this then, thanks for the guys

[WARMachine]

^^^ Best of Luck...

Bump this thread if you have more questions...

[hankdiesel]

If you keep your diet on track and do cardio the bloat should be minimal from any test you choose. Your first cycle you might not want to pin ed or eod. You don't have to gain 25 lbs and look all bloated in the face .

[J431S]

I agree with those who suggested u for test only cycle to see how your body react. I suggest save the mast for 2nd or 3rd cycle.