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    matty50 is offline Junior Member
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    Test C and oral Winstrol

    Age 26
    5'10'' 215 lbs
    bf% unknown but would estimate at about 18%

    Hey everyone, I'm about to do my 3rd cycle and was wondering if I could get a critique before I go ahead and buy the stuff.

    I'm not looking to put on a whole lot of size right now, I just want to cut up a little bit and increase my endurance in things like pull ups, push ups, running, etc. Dropping some fat would be nice too, but with the training and diet I plan on doing, I'm sure dropping fat wont be a problem. Plus I plan on cutting naturally before summer hits anyway, so I don't care about getting 5% b/f right now, my goals will be more performance based than appearance.

    What I have access to:
    10ml of test cyp 250mg/ml
    20ml of EQ 250mg/ml
    50mg winstrol orals (54 count)
    Hcg I don't recall how much he has for sale.

    currently posses liquid forms of:
    Clen , T3, Clom, Aroma and Tamox

    My proposed cycle:
    Weeks 1 - 10 250mg/wk Test Cyp
    Weeks 4 - 10 50mg/day Winstrol oral

    Should the winstrol orals be split and taken twice per day or can I take them once a day? Also, I usually train after work in the evenings. When would be the best time to take the Winstrol?

    Should I even take Winstrol, or would you guys suggest EQ for cutting/endurance? Or should I buy the whole lot and run test/winny/eq?

    Hope none of these are stupid questions. I welcome any and all feedback.

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    WARMachine is offline Post Cycle Extraordinaire~GOT PCT?
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    Well first off you have enough for 5wks of Test C.

    Thats a red flag right there...

    250mgs EW is a maintance dose of Test bro...

    Not to mention your BF% is too high to begin a cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Well first off you have enough for 5wks of Test C.

    Thats a red flag right there...

    250mgs EW is a maintance dose of Test bro...

    Not to mention your BF% is too high to begin a cycle.
    I kind of planned the 250mg/wk to be a maintenance type dose. I don't really want to put on a whole lot of mass. My friends already make comments about my size as it is. The creatine excuse wont hold up forever, especially if I start gaining 25lbs in 3 months again.

    I will agree that my bf% could come down a little more. In the past month I have reduced it significantly, but there's much room for improvement. What kind of bf% should I be shooting for ideally before a cycle?

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    Youre only 215? Who big are your friends to where they think your Arnold? Lol...

    Generally 12% is the minimum % you should begin a cycle. The lower your BF%, the less likely you'll encounter estrogen related sides.


    and i might add, whats the point of doing a maintenance dose of Test if youve never cycled before?

    What do you intend to get from it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    Youre only 215? Who big are your friends to where they think your Arnold? Lol...

    Generally 12% is the minimum % you should begin a cycle. The lower your BF%, the less likely you'll encounter estrogen related sides.
    I make the joke that none of my friends ever hang out with football players. I agree with you though, I'm probably one of the smaller people in my gym, but around my friends they think I'm huge. Probably due to the size I gained over the past 2 years from my other cycles.


    Quote Originally Posted by war4BTT View Post
    and i might add, whats the point of doing a maintenance dose of Test if youve never cycled before?

    What do you intend to get from it?

    As I stated in my first post, this will be my third cycle. And my goal is athletic performance on the endurance side. I need to be able to do a lot of push ups, sit ups, pull ups, and get my run time down by February.

    All things considered, I did fall off the wagon since the summer. So I'll be waiting till I get my bf% down before I cycle. But If anyone has any advice based on the gear I have available, I'd like to buy it now so I don't have to go hunting for gear when the time comes.

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    Looks fine except run the winny wk 6 to 12, two weeks past the test. If your not lookin for gains then 250mg/wk with the winny is plenty but id prb pick up anothe bottle if you can afford it. The winny can be into 1/4's and take every 6 hours or so. Not sure what to do with the eq, ive never taken it or plan to.

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