My next cycle right away.

[brox]

hello guys, im 24 i just completed my first cycle, i started at 130 and now im at 140, i gained 10 pounds and now im benching 50 pounds on each side of the bar i started at 25, i was taking 2CCs of sustanon on mondays and 1CC of bouldamon on fridays, my question is, i feel really good, should i take a 3 month break, or jump into deca on mondays and 300Mil of test on fridays, the only side effect ive felt is numb hands at night time while sleeping and ive gotten big.

thanks.

[Big]

hello guys, im 24 i just completed my first cycle, i started at 130 and now im at 140, i gained 10 pounds and now im benching 50 pounds on each side of the bar i started at 25, i was taking 2CCs of sustanon on mondays and 1CC of bouldamon on fridays, my question is, i feel really good, should i take a 3 month break, or jump into deca on mondays and 300Mil of test on fridays, the only side effect ive felt is numb hands at night time while sleeping and ive gotten big.

thanks.

Welcome.
I lost count of how many reasons you shouldn't be using steroids in just your first post.
lets start here:

height?
present weight?
body fat%?
years training?
what was your pct?

[mg316]

I lost count of how many reasons you shouldn't be using steroids in just your first post.

i agree

[brox]

height: 5.6
present weight 139 punds
body fat%? no idea bro
years training ive been working out hardcore for about 4 months
what was your pct? i dont know what that is

: / i started doing steroids because ive tried all kind of weight gain diets and they dont work with me, this is the first time ive seen change.

[FireGuy]

Just when you think you heard it all........

[Big]

please list your daily diet in detail, what you eat, total calories, total protein per day, etc.

[Matt]

height: 5.6
present weight 139 punds
body fat%? no idea bro
years training ive been working out hardcore for about 4 months
what was your pct? i dont know what that is

: / i started doing steroids because ive tried all kind of weight gain diets and they dont work with me, this is the first time ive seen change.

You really need to forget steroids . Spend some time reading the vast amount of information on this board. What you are doing is dangerous. Your health is at serious risk.

[G-1000]

OK wow lest see if we can get you in the right direction with out you getting flamed off the form.

Why did you chose to use aas??

What do you know about diet?? Do you feel you have a good one. Please post it.

Did you do any research on aas before useing?? Were did you get the info??? Never take advise from that source again.

[Matt]

I really hope this is someone just having a joke.

[brox]

please list your daily diet in detail, what you eat, total calories, total protein per day, etc.

i eat 2 peanut butter sandwiches in the morning, and 10 i drink a glass of muscle milk with a jam and cheese sandwich, at 1:00 i go to lunch usually fast food place, most of the time it involves meat and i stuff my self, when i leave work at 4:00 before working out i drink another muscle milk and after i work out i drink another muscle milk, then at 7:00 i eat dinner usually chicken or fish with rice beans potatoes and what not, and before going to bed i usually have snack.

if you guys think i shouldnt be juicing let me know why, im looking for advice sorry i cant be more informative.

[higherdesire]

brox you aren't the first and I am sure you won;t be the last, but you have your focus in the wrong place. The way you eat is the most important part of this thing hands down. THE MOST IMPORTANT. more so than your work out routine and your steroid choices. Spend some time reading the diet section first, then progress to the work out forum, then study what compounds will work for you, and once you have gotten on the road to eating well, and working out right, then you will most likely see that you are progressing better than the results you have seen for the first, uh, 'cycle' you have done. Good luck, and stay away from AAS by any means necessary, until you have the rest of your game in place.

[redz]

reason 1- You are tiny and need to gain naturally before juicing
reason 2- You were incorrectly injecting the steroids in your last cycle
reason 3- you are propsing a cycle right after a cycle
reason 4- you likely did no pct
reason 5- your diet is aweful
reason 6- you are still brutally small and weak after your first cycle

[G-1000]

i eat 2 peanut butter sandwiches in the morning, and 10 i drink a glass of muscle milk with a jam and cheese sandwich, at 1:00 i go to lunch usually fast food place, most of the time it involves meat and i stuff my self, when i leave work at 4:00 before working out i drink another muscle milk and after i work out i drink another muscle milk, then at 7:00 i eat dinner usually chicken or fish with rice beans potatoes and what not, and before going to bed i usually have snack.

if you guys think i shouldnt be juicing let me know why, im looking for advice sorry i cant be more informative.

You should be asking why you should juice. Not if we think you shouldn't

Ok you have a lot to learn. You know as much as a 2 year old when it comes to diet.

Do you think your diet is correct?? lets start there because if you do im not going to was any more time.

[Big]

start here. diet properly for a few months and you will be amazed at the results.
Hardgainer? Can't gain weight? READ THIS!!!

UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

[brox]

You should be asking why you should juice. Not if we think you shouldn't

Ok you have a lot to learn. You know as much as a 2 year old when it comes to diet.

Do you think your diet is correct?? lets start there because if you do im not going to was any more time.

honestly the only reason i juiced is because im really tired of being so skinny, i dont think my diet its the best, i do what i can, ive tried to follow other diets online and they dont seem to work, a friend of mine recomended that cycle and yeah i guess i was dumb to listen to him, anymore advice u guys have ill welcome it.

[brox]

start here. diet properly for a few months and you will be amazed at the results.
Hardgainer? Can't gain weight? READ THIS!!!

UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

thanks.

[Phate]

i eat 2 peanut butter sandwiches in the morning, and 10 i drink a glass of muscle milk with a jam and cheese sandwich, at 1:00 i go to lunch usually fast food place, most of the time it involves meat and i stuff my self, when i leave work at 4:00 before working out i drink another muscle milk and after i work out i drink another muscle milk, then at 7:00 i eat dinner usually chicken or fish with rice beans potatoes and what not, and before going to bed i usually have snack.

if you guys think i shouldnt be juicing let me know why, im looking for advice sorry i cant be more informative.

first off your diet is HORRIBLE, you really need to research diet(i'll provide you some links at the end of this post)

diet is 80-90% of your gains, trust me, i'm still natural, about your height, and about 60-70lbs heavier than you

next, your "cycle" was not only bad, but dangerous, if i read it right you only injected sust once a week and eq once a week, not good bro, sust needs to be injected every day or every other day at most to keep stable blood levels(i'll explain in more detail if you like later)

pct is essential after cycle, it stands for Post Cycle Therapy and is what we use to bring our natural testosterone production back after a cycle, btw, injecting AS normally completely suppresses your natural production

here are some threads to research, read then ask questions and we'll be happy to help you to start your journey(and bodybuilding is definitely a journey) safely

read on diet first and propose a diet, then we'll critique it for you, THIS IS PARAMOUNT AND MUST BE DONE FIRST


Under 170? Over 5'10"?
contributed by War4BTT
If you're over 5'10" and under 170lbs read this...

If You Are Under 24 Then Read This
contributed by War4BTT
Whats the right age to take steroids (GOOD READ)

Read the Rules
contributed by War4BTT
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=145582

Stop the Bullshit!
contributed by War4BTT
WARNING please read...................

How to Write a Post That Gets Your Questions Answered!
contributed by War4BTT
How to Write a Post That Gets Your Questions Answered!

Steroid Profiles
contributed by War4BTT
http://www.steroid.com/drugprof.php

How to Dose your Drugs
contributed by War4BTT
http://forums.steroid.com/educational-threads/357078-dosing-your-drugs.html#post4150809

Things to Conside BEFORE AAS
contributed by Marcus300
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=1#post4316957

High bf% and Cycling
contributed by jimmyinkedup
High bf% and cycling

Anabolic Links

Test Beginner Cycle Guide
Test beginner cycle info

Avavar FAQ
Anavar FAQ - A great read.


Sust and Why you SHOULDN’T USE IT
Sustanon and why you shouldnt use it

Oral vs. Injectable
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...highlight=oral

Burst Cycling Explained
contributed by Marcus300
Short burst cycling- explained

Diet/Cardio

How to Keep from Losing Muscle During Empty Stomach Cardio
How to Keep from Losing Muscle on Empty Stomach Cardio

Diet Help
Diet help

Nutritional Links
Nutritional links

Adipose Tissue and how to get rid of it
ADIPOSE TISSUE - What it is, how to get rid of it

Why rice isn't a good carb
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ght=brown+rice

Carb Cycling
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=carb+cycling


PCT

Pheendo's PCT
Pheedno's PCT

Anthony Roberts PCT
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758

All You Need To Know About Gyno
All you need to know about GYNO.

Serm/AI Definitions
SERM/AI Definition

Clomid Q&A
Clomid Facts and Questions Answered!

HCG FAQ
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ighlight=nolva

Gyno Reversal
contributed by War4BTT
All you need to know about GYNO.

The most efficient way to use HCG
contributed by War4BTT
a must read

HCG crash course
contributed by War4BTT
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/355725-crash-course-hcg.html#post4127466

Drummerboys PCT and Cycle Recomendations: Estrogen, Progesterone and Cortisol control
contributed by War4BTT
PCT and Cycle Recomendations: Estrogen, Progesterone and Cortisol control

Arimidex is NOT effective on gyno, Get letro
read post #6 by magic 32
contributed by War4BTT
Arimidex

Think Adex is good for PCT?
contributed by War4BTT
Regarding anastrozole and tamoxifen

All About Caber
contributed by War4BTT
The How To Use Caber Thread




HGH, Insulin , and IGF-1

Guide to Reconstituting HGH
The Definitive Guide to HGH Reconstitution from Eli Lilly

The Book on Insulin
The Book On Insulin

The Facts on HGH
HGH - The facts

HGH FAQ
HGH FAQ - Great stuff!!!

Putting HGH, Slin, and IGF-1 together
Putting it all together - HGH + IGF-1 + Slin – by RedBaron

The Skinny on Insulin
Insulin.txt

Info on IGF-1
IGF-1 Info

Understand Insulin
Understanding Insulin: Best article on Insulin ever written.





Sympathomimetics Links

Clenbuterol FAQ
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...light=clen+FAQ

Albuterol
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...nthony+roberts

Cytomel (T3)
Anabolic Review Profile: Cytomel (T3 - Liothyrine Sodium)

Clen /T3
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=clen+cytomel

All you need to know about DNP
All you need to know about DNP

T4,T3 Explained
T4,T3, TRH & TSH Explained from Abbott Pharmaceuticals

Ketotifen
Ketotifen - what you need to know!

Clen FAQ
contributed by War4BTT
Clen Faq. You better like it it took me ages.


DNP FAQ
contributed by War4BTT
All you need to know about DNP

Injection Info
Injection Information

Understand Esters, Half-Life, and Active Life
Understanding Esters, Active-Life and Half-Life

All about Antibiotics
Dr.D's Antibiotic Brief

If You Are Under 24 Then Read This
Whats the right age to take steroids (GOOD READ)

Injection Frequency
contributed by War4BTT
Test Injection Frequency Graphs

Ester Weight and Active Lives
contributed by War4BTT
http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/355998-ester-weight-active-lives.html#post4131783

Stallion_1's AAR thread
contributed by War4BTT
androgenic and anabolic ratios.

[Phate]

Edited till I learn how to properly advise

bro, YOU ARE A BEGINNER, don't give someone harmful advice like this

[Matt]

Remember brox these guys arnt out to flame you, they are concerned with your health, you must understand this. Please read as much as possible and KEEP away from steroids .

best of luck

[redz]

Dont mind the haters here bro. For a beginner i would say

Who are you, he just cycled and wants to cycle again without doing any pct or time off. Stop giving bad advice, you are very miss-informed and shouldnt be giving advice.

[brox]

what should i take as a post cycle to seal the deal and start fresh with a diet, damn u guys scare me lol.

[Big]

Who are you, he just cycled and wants to cycle again without doing any pct or time off. Stop giving bad advice, you are very miss-informed and shouldnt be giving advice.

I just warned him, don't be surprised if he's banned by the end of the day.

[redz]

PCT for that cycle:

Nolva/Clomid should suffice I like to use aromasin as well. Run them for 4 weeks.

[G-1000]

honestly the only reason i juiced is because im really tired of being so skinny, i dont think my diet its the best, i do what i can, ive tried to follow other diets online and they dont seem to work, a friend of mine recomended that cycle and yeah i guess i was dumb to listen to him, anymore advice u guys have ill welcome it.

OK so i can see your just lost and need direction.

Big has posted a few thread for you. You need to spend time in the diet form. Read what you can first. The when you have questions post them up and ask. You will find people will be much more willing to help if they see your trying to help your self.

[brox]

thanks again for the info guys

[G-1000]

This is what a real diet looks like.

Do not try and follow this diet for it is not correct for your. It is simply and sample for you to see how involved they are.

TRAINING DAYS

Wait 1.5 hours to eat after your PWO shake
Try and space all other meals 3 hrs apart

MEAL 1
10 egg whites
80 grams oat meal ( dry weight)
6 fish oil gel caps

MEAL 2

6 oz of either chicken, turkey, beef, fish
7 oz sweet potato
6 fish oil gel caps

MEAL 3

6 oz of either chicken, beef, turkey, fish
150 grams of either cooked lentils or barley
6 fish ol gel caps

Meal 4

Repeat # 2

Meal 5

Repeat # 3

Meal 6
6 oz fish with salad ( oil & vinegar dressing)

[brox]

This is what a real diet looks like.

Do not try and follow this diet for it is not correct for your. It is simply and sample for you to see how involved they are.

TRAINING DAYS

Wait 1.5 hours to eat after your PWO shake
Try and space all other meals 3 hrs apart

MEAL 1
10 egg whites
80 grams oat meal ( dry weight)
6 fish oil gel caps

MEAL 2

6 oz of either chicken, turkey, beef, fish
7 oz sweet potato
6 fish oil gel caps

MEAL 3

6 oz of either chicken, beef, turkey, fish
150 grams of either cooked lentils or barley
6 fish ol gel caps

Meal 4

Repeat # 2

Meal 5

Repeat # 3

Meal 6
6 oz fish with salad ( oil & vinegar dressing)

thanks.

[G-1000]

You will find that 80% of your efforts will be spent at home not in the gym. It takes time to eat correct and make all your meals. This is a life style not a game to us. We take this shit very serous. Eat train sleep.

[Phate]

OK so i can see your just lost and need direction.

Big has posted a few thread for you. You need to spend time in the diet form. Read what you can first. The when you have questions post them up and ask. You will find people will be much more willing to help if they see your trying to help your self.

i think that's my cue, lol

read up and post a detailed diet and we'll be more than happy to help you tweek it

[Matt]

Ljanowar your a sad man, what makes you this way? If he followed your advice he wouldnt live long.

[redz]

Where is the reason to this???? I gave him a cycle and a Diet he should look at. Now if you "wanna be" gurus cant handle this then go urself tnx.

Well nice knowing ya.

[redz]

3-5k is a pretty vague cal sugestion.

[Phate]

Your all right and im totally wrong and noob about all.

glad you finally recognized that