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    First Cycle, help?

    Hello everyone. I'm looking to start my first cycle here soon, the only other supplement I've taken like this was testadrol about a year or so back. I don't want to take anything too hardcore, I also don't want hair loss ether :P. I was thinking Deca with Test E but I'm not really sure. I was wanting to do a mass building cycle.

    I'm 6 foot 10 inches tall, 280 pounds, I've been lifting for 5 years, my diet isn't very well set, very high protien, some what high callories (5,000 a day). Also, whats the best way to keep what you gain, I was watching some videos, a lot of them were saying that you can't keep your gains when you come off the cycle. I don't believe this to be true, but how do you keep them?
    Thanks.

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    apperantly you need to do more research. read all stickies and don't cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wushu23 View Post
    Hello everyone. I'm looking to start my first cycle here soon, the only other supplement I've taken like this was testadrol about a year or so back. I don't want to take anything too hardcore, I also don't want hair loss ether :P. I was thinking Deca with Test E but I'm not really sure. I was wanting to do a mass building cycle.

    I'm 6 foot 10 inches tall, 280 pounds, I've been lifting for 5 years, my diet isn't very well set, very high protien, some what high callories (5,000 a day). Also, whats the best way to keep what you gain, I was watching some videos, a lot of them were saying that you can't keep your gains when you come off the cycle. I don't believe this to be true, but how do you keep them?
    Thanks.
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    Age - 23
    Body Fat - 10% - 12%
    I read through the majority of the Stickys, why not cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wushu23 View Post
    Age - 23
    Body Fat - 10% - 12%
    I read through the majority of the Stickys, why not cycle?
    280lbs at 10-12%, post a pic, i've got to see this, not saying you're lying, i just have to see this

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    you don't seem very well informed for someone who read all that.

    what is your proposed cycle and pct?

    phate he did say 6'10. pretty massive all around lol

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    like t own and i said you sound like you haven't grasped what you have read, if you did read all stickies. go back and read and understand what you read. i didn't understand alot of things but i took my time and have learned, and still learn on a daily basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    you don't seem very well informed for someone who read all that.

    what is your proposed cycle and pct?

    phate he did say 6'10. pretty massive all around lol
    i know, i just have to see someone who's 6'10 and 280, lol, i'm curious is all

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    I'll get a pic up soon.

    PCT, Nova and Clomid, I don't know the time frames, like when to start, that is why I posted the question too :P

    Think I am massive? See my father. 312 pounds, 7 foor 3.

    Any thoughts cycle wise?

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    Is 280 a bad weight or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wushu23 View Post
    I'll get a pic up soon.

    PCT, Nova and Clomid, I don't know the time frames, like when to start, that is why I posted the question too :P

    Think I am massive? See my father. 312 pounds, 7 foor 3.

    Any thoughts cycle wise?
    here are some links to read, should have everything you need

    Test Beginner Cycle Guide
    Test beginner cycle info

    Avavar FAQ
    Anavar FAQ - A great read.


    Sust and Why you SHOULDN’T USE IT
    Sustanon and why you shouldnt use it

    Oral vs. Injectable
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...highlight=oral

    Burst Cycling Explained
    contributed by Marcus300
    Short burst cycling- explained

    Diet/Cardio

    How to Keep from Losing Muscle During Empty Stomach Cardio
    How to Keep from Losing Muscle on Empty Stomach Cardio

    Diet Help
    Diet help

    Nutritional Links
    Nutritional links

    Adipose Tissue and how to get rid of it
    ADIPOSE TISSUE - What it is, how to get rid of it

    Why rice isn't a good carb
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ght=brown+rice

    Carb Cycling
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=carb+cycling


    PCT

    Pheendo's PCT
    Pheedno's PCT

    Anthony Roberts PCT
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=209758

    All You Need To Know About Gyno
    All you need to know about GYNO.

    Serm/AI Definitions
    SERM/AI Definition

    Clomid Q&A
    Clomid Facts and Questions Answered!

    HCG FAQ
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ighlight=nolva

    Gyno Reversal
    contributed by War4BTT
    All you need to know about GYNO.

    The most efficient way to use HCG
    contributed by War4BTT
    a must read

    HCG crash course
    contributed by War4BTT
    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/355725-crash-course-hcg.html#post4127466

    Drummerboys PCT and Cycle Recomendations: Estrogen, Progesterone and Cortisol control
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    PCT and Cycle Recomendations: Estrogen, Progesterone and Cortisol control

    Arimidex is NOT effective on gyno, Get letro
    read post #6 by magic 32
    contributed by War4BTT
    Arimidex

    Think Adex is good for PCT?
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    Regarding anastrozole and tamoxifen

    All About Caber
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    The How To Use Caber Thread



    Sympathomimetics Links

    Clenbuterol FAQ
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...light=clen+FAQ

    Albuterol
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...nthony+roberts

    Cytomel (T3)
    Anabolic Review Profile: Cytomel (T3 - Liothyrine Sodium)

    Clen /T3
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=clen+cytomel

    All you need to know about DNP
    All you need to know about DNP

    T4,T3 Explained
    T4,T3, TRH & TSH Explained from Abbott Pharmaceuticals

    Ketotifen
    Ketotifen - what you need to know!

    Clen FAQ
    contributed by War4BTT
    Clen Faq. You better like it it took me ages.


    DNP FAQ
    contributed by War4BTT
    All you need to know about DNP



    Miscellaneous

    Injection Info
    Injection Information

    Understand Esters, Half-Life, and Active Life
    Understanding Esters, Active-Life and Half-Life

    All about Antibiotics
    Dr.D's Antibiotic Brief

    If You Are Under 24 Then Read This
    Whats the right age to take steroids (GOOD READ)

    Injection Frequency
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    Test Injection Frequency Graphs

    Ester Weight and Active Lives
    contributed by War4BTT
    http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-questions-answers/355998-ester-weight-active-lives.html#post4131783

    Stallion_1's AAR thread
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    androgenic and anabolic ratios.

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