Gyno

[val05096]

With just 1cc of 300mg test enan a week do i need to worry about gyno?

[prima07]

100mgs a week of test u need to worry about gyno

[val05096]

so should run something during cycle if so what and how much. Thanks

[bigp87]

You should have some Arimidex on hand to be running during the cycle, take .50mg every other day, and get some Nolvadex if you want to completely block estrogen levels.

[WARMachine]

^^ Yeah block estrogen levels altogether, thats great for muscle growth...

OP, we need these stats...


age
height
weight
bf%
diet summary/# meals per day
years lifting / workout split
cycle experience
pct/estrogen control knowledge
goals (size/cut/strength/speed etc...)

[bigp87]

^^ Yeah block estrogen levels altogether, thats great for muscle growth...

In case of symptons of Gyno were to appear...

[WARMachine]

IMO the best way to prevent gyno is to run Adex from the beginning. Nolva does in fact inhibit gains. There are some studies that suggest Adex does as well, but in my experience, thats debatable.

[T_Own]

people get small gyno from puberty, with only slight increases in natural test, so you CAN get it from any amount. will you? probably not unless you know you are prone to it. arimidex throughout would be best if you're really worried, and it'll help keep bloat down.

if you really wanted to stop estrogen, letro would probably be a better choice than nolva.. but both are a little extreme if its just a small concern here

[WARMachine]

Nolvadex doesnt stop estrogen. It just blocks it from the receptors. Letro on the other hand, kills up to 95% of all circulating estrogen.

[T_Own]

yeah i know how they work, but essentially it comes to the same end result right?

nolva = low binding so maybe only 5% bind
letro = low levels so maybe only 3% bind

just throwing out numbers there i have no idea what it actually is

[jimmyinkedup]

IMO the best way to prevent gyno is to run Adex from the beginning. Nolva does in fact inhibit gains. There are some studies that suggest Adex does as well, but in my experience, thats debatable.

show me some proof of this!! I hear this all the time....I think it's BS. People used to say this...you know why? because they thought it inhibited (or in fact blocked) estrogen so effectively that it reduced gains...thats right they attribute the potential to reduced gains with nolva to it being so effective at blocking estro at receptor site. So now people reccomend ai's like adex or letro which reduce estro levels WAY more than nolva blocks them. I used to use nolva with proviron for estro control on cycle and I made amazing gains. I dont buy it... show me some proof. If anything on a low dose test cycle i think nolva might be a better choice re: gains than an AI...obviously JMO... but I have some 1st hand experience to back it.

[scott-uk]

if its just a 4 or 5 week course you shouldnt worry about it especialy if its your first course but if you get lumps or nipple pain i would advise nolva and take 1 a day for the rest of your course and for two weeks after i personaly found that this works.