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Thread: Sexual issues.. KELKEL/ AUST/MUSCLEINK/BONAPARTE. any other vets

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    Sexual issues.. KELKEL/ AUST/MUSCLEINK/BONAPARTE. any other vets

    Ok let me start off.

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    110kg.
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    about 14-15 ish bodyfat. Quite fat and unfit atm.

    On Trt and blast and cruise.

    Current cycle 6/7 weeks in.

    1gram deca
    750 eq
    250 test

    Adex 0.25mg tue/fri so 24hrs after each injection. Keeps E2 according to last blood test on 250 test 89 which in american terms i believe is around 30ish?

    Anway, my problem is halfway through intercouse,, or when my missus is on top grinding against me i go flat as hell, not sure why. Its deffs not her otherwise i wouldnt be with her lol. I wish i could just get as naturally hard as i can when i pop a viagra. Lucky ive stocked up on these.

    Cliffs.

    Go flat halfway through sex, not to bad when i masturbate.

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    May need to get bloods. Could be estrogen or prolactin

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    not very savvy in terms of TRT but isnt the deca a tad too high? whats the need for so much?? and why not just bump up the test dose?

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    When in doubt always get blood work done. Dont 2nd guess because your E2 could be to high or to low. It only takes a couple of days to find out getting private labs done and then you will have your answer instead of spending weeks experimenting and maybe making things worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Othello View Post
    not very savvy in terms of TRT but isnt the deca a tad too high? whats the need for so much?? and why not just bump up the test dose?
    More is not always better. If his testosterone is being converted into E2 then taking more will just make it worse.
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    I agree with you LB. bloods r the definitive way to go...

    my question was more out of curiosity regarding his initial choices/cycle design if u will...

    i mean why start off with such ratios initially and not simply bump the tes.

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    Come on roger blood work blood work blood work what did you think these guys were going to tell you.

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    I agree with everyone but your test has got to be higher than the Deca .Dredded Deca dick with
    the test being that low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel h View Post
    I agree with everyone but your test has got to be higher than the Deca .Dredded Deca dick with
    the test being that low.
    Nope, that's OLD bro science. Your test only needs to be at or above your natural levels.

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    Its happened to me.Put test above my deca straightened right up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel h View Post
    Its happened to me.Put test above my deca straightened right up.
    Did you get blood work done? Maybe your test was way under dosed.

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    Ok will have bloods done, but 0.25mg x2 per week keeps my e2 in range with 250mg of test.

    Im only running 250mg of test because really, anything higher and my libido is out of control to the point it becomes interfering with everyday life and tasks. Plus the missus cops it a fair bit and it gets her annoyed so have to respect that. Dont even ask what i was like on 1000mg of test LOL. farkkkkkk. My worst fetishes were revealed.

    Cant be prolactin because on all my tests, even on tren /deca with e2 in check my Prolactin was low anyway. It only ever rises when E rises.

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    Guarantee that is not enough AI for what your taking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fit2bOld View Post
    Guarantee that is not enough AI for what your taking.
    Really? Isnt test the only thing that aromatises? Deca and eq dont, correct?
    What are you thinking pal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Nope, that's OLD bro science. Your test only needs to be at or above your natural levels.
    No it's definitely not. I just ran deca in a trt protocol, estrogen and prolactin not too high and I still have ED. What I found was DHN replaces DHT too much and you will have issues. I'm sure some are more sensitive than others but running high amounts of deca and low enough dht conversion and you will have issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Did you get blood work done? Maybe your test was way under dosed.
    Yes i had blood work done but that was a long time ago.My test was from the pharmacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger11 View Post
    Really? Isnt test the only thing that aromatises? Deca and eq dont, correct
    that not true deca will send your estrogen through the roof in a NY minute
    What are you thinking pal?
    I would need 1mg daily of anastrozle to run that. If not a bit more.
    Blood work is the true answer.
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    Anyone have any input on quickly correcting ed associated with deca use, NOT due to estrogen/prolactin increases? Aside from Viagra use

    Upping test to get more dht???
    Last edited by Ccdiesel; 06-08-2014 at 04:21 PM.

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    Nandrolone converts to estrogen at 20% the rate of test. And the prolactin and progestogenic activity accentuate estrogen's effects.
    Boldenone " " 50% " ".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel h
    Its happened to me.Put test above my deca straightened right up.
    I love high deca Low test. It's easier to control estrogen with an AI. Estrogen is a proceeding factor to prolactin buildup. (Which makes your pp floppy) raising your test above a gram would be terrible at this point. Get your bloodwork done. Good luck

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    That's a whole lot of gear. I would personally swap EQ for Cialis and Caber.

    Either way, I don't know why you start off just fine and then go flaccid. Might be all in your head. Who knows without blood work. Try Oxytocin if blood work doesn't indicate any issues.

    But again, I would never run deca without Cialis and Caber.
    Last edited by austinite; 06-09-2014 at 05:15 AM.
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    I've gotten this problem from deca at just 200 mg/week (with test of course). Keeping e2 and prolactin in range didn't fix the problem for me. My dick would feel desensitized during sex. Lasting longer seemed nice at first, but it got to the point where I couldn't get off at all. I'd start going soft after a few minutes. This happened with sex and with masturbation on 2 cycles in a row, so it was a real physical problem.

    What worked for me was stopping deca and never touching it again. My joints hate me, but my dick is happy.

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