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What does everyone one prefer and why?
I used Sust my on my first cycle and got a little bloaty, I used test enanthate my second cycle and didn't get as bloaty but felt like I missed out on a month of the "good feeling" that testoserone gives it's users like gym aggression, confidence, libido, etc., waiting for the longer ester to release.
Just was curious as to what most people like and use.
I love using 1mil of test 400 with 1mil of test proponate 125mg herts like hell but very effective twice weekly for 14 weeks then of course pct after wards.
there was a poll on this a while ago if you want to try to search and pull it upQuote:
Originally Posted by ShadetreeJones
some people love sust(we have a member named iluvsust) and some hate it
sust is like decaf coffee ...why bother... IMO *L* good in theory bad in application ...of course it works but much easier with single ester...again JMO...jump start w/ prop alongside test e ..then transition to test e ...if long cycle i also transition back to prop for finish .....hmmm that doesnt sound so simple...just never liked the multi ester in one product .....seems unneceesary...
spike levels much? prop twice a week will be crashing your levels like an old asian lady was drivingQuote:
Originally Posted by ZEUS3
^^^ thats kinda my whole theory with sus ...seems like it would be hard to establish steady levels with all those esters..even tho that was kinda the point with its invention....maybe not but with the prop so low in amount and injection frequency necessary why not just use prop???
btw - funny analogy *L*
hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by T_Own
prop the whole way through. love the stuff.
Single estered testosterone is better IMO. If you don't like the frequent shots go with enanthate or cypionate twice a week. My ester of choice is propionate shot ed.
LOL... I have sustanon laying around myself but never dared to use it. Oh well I'll give it a try this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Own
sust works ok, i'm using it at present 250mg e.o.d but it seems that compared to other single ester tests you have to go a while with unstable blood levels before longer esters become stable, i know that sust contains prop and ph prop which are both fast acting but for me sust takes 4-5 weeks to work properly. I am only running sust because i can get it cheap as fvck but in future i will always run with prop as my 1st choice of test.
LMAO, living in Singapore I can totally relate to that !!! :haha:Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Own
I looked at some photos of myself during a Sust/Deca relative to those during a Test e/eq/var cycle and my face was literally twice the size on Sust as it was on Test e.
Sustanon is basically "time release test" correct? No other time release product has EVER worked better than the regular product for me no matter what the product.
i vote single ester
Single ester, for sure. I have only tried enth so far, but I'd like to try Prop or even suspension.
imo , test enth for bulking and test prop for cutting ... thats how i use it and it always works :)
I prefer prop. Why? Because it's prop :)
I don't understand but want to learn. Why do you prefer prop over something like enth or cyp?Quote:
Originally Posted by Big
Are certain esters more desirable for cutting or bulking?
Never really saw a point in using those multi ester tests. Because they have short esters in them you're going to have to inject EOD regardless to keep stable levels of those short esters so if you're injecting EOD might as well stick to prop and have less bloat and work fast.
I like short esters in general because they "kick in" fast and leave the system fast, you don't have to wait like you do with a long ester. I also like poking myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadetreeJones
as for cutting or bulking, I always depend on diet for that, not the compound being used.
Sure, I understand that diet plays a far more important role than which estered testoserone one uses, but it seems like some esters are more common in cutting cycles and I was just curious if there was a reason why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big
When you run prop, how do you rotate injection sites?
quads, delts, bi's, tri's, lats, traps, pecs, rinse and repeat.
No glutes?
I hate glutes, hard to reach and just never liked them much. I'm in the minority there I know, but I'm ok with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadetreeJones
single ester is best imo,
i hate gluetes aswell buggered if i can twist around enough to pin there never lone aspirate.
That's a lot of pinning. WowQuote:
Originally Posted by Big