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    molecule is offline Associate Member
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    2nd Cycle of Sustanon & Equipose

    Guys I have done my first cycle of 12 weeks more than 3 months ago. I am planning my second cycle in Jan 09. Here is what I have in mind.

    Cycle time 8 to 12 weeks

    Sustanon 250 - 1 shot every other day
    Equipoise - 2 shots a week
    Ephedrine - 4 before workout, 4 during the day (EC&A)
    HCG 2000 IU every weekend
    HCG dosage to 2000IU twice a week for
    Clen Tabs for last 2 weeks and 2 weeks after the cycle along with PCT
    Sustain Alpha lotion for last 2 weeks of the cycle and 2 weeks after the cycle

    For my details:

    I am 27yrs old
    Height = 6 feet tall
    Weight = 85KGs
    Fat % = 16%

    Would love to have a nice advice from you guys.

    Regards

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    What did your first cycle consist of?

    What is the dose of equipose mg/ml?

    How are you dosing the ephedrine
    and have you used it off cycle before?

    What is the rationale for your use of HCG in the manner you
    have detailed?

    Why the massive dose of HCG for the weekend?

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    anon03191970

    What did your first cycle consist of?
    Deca Susanol Clen ehphi

    What is the dose of equipose mg/ml?
    Dosage of Equipoise is 1 mg...thats 1 ml each shot

    How are you dosing the ephedrine
    and have you used it off cycle before?
    EC&A Will take 30 mg pills with caffeine (black coffee) and aspirin

    What is the rationale for your use of HCG in the manner you
    have detailed?

    Why the massive dose of HCG for the weekend?

    The use of HCG during the cylce is not let the natural generation of testo stop completely.

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    What is the equipose dosed at? 250mg/ml? 100mg/ml? 50mg/ml?

    I understand what HCG is used for, I am questioning your use of it.

    An average dose of HCG during a cycle is between 500iu to 1000iu every week to every other week while on a cycle.

    A dose of 250iu to 500iu everyday during pct for 2 to 3 weeks is sufficient and should vary little from person to person.

    Taking very large doses of HCG can cause an increase in estrogen levels, and
    you do know what the potential side effects are for increased estrogen levels?

    Ahhhh the ECA stack. I hope you know the risks involved in such a stack.
    Last edited by anon03191970; 12-17-2008 at 11:18 AM.

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    Thanks buddy.

    I am not as experinced as you hence I have just planned a cycle and will alter it as per advice from you guys.

    So u suggest that i take a HCG shot of 500iu or 1000iu per week instead if a 2000iu. I think I can take 500iu initially then 1000iu and then take 2000iu on the PCT.

    Did i get it right when u said take 250iu or 500iu EVERYDAY during PCT for 2-3 weeks.

    I think the only possible risk in a ECA stack would be raising the heart beats and the tremors. I have also read of cycling the ECA by having it 5 days a week and then 2 days off. I would like your advice on the same buddy.

    Also for all the readers this is just a crude way I have thought of the cycle and will be finalizing it as per your suggestions guys.

    regards

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    Yes between 250iu to 500iu could be taken everyday for 2-3 weeks of your pct.

    The ECA stack will raise your blood pressure. Steroids will also tend to raise
    your blood pressure. So hopefully you don't have a pre-existing BP issue.

    Monitor your BP frequently.

    You can take the following to help control and lower your BP.

    Coenzyme Q10, Garlic, Hawthorne Berry, Fish Oil and Folic Acid.

    Hope this helps,
    Last edited by anon03191970; 12-17-2008 at 01:10 PM.

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    I donot have a BP problem. Will monitor it for sure. Thanks for the help Also i got some more reviews which say:

    EQ is near worthless unless you are taking 600mg/wk for 16 wks. That seems to be the magic numbers for EQ.

    Also
    For a second cycle, keep the sust. because the short and long esters will yield some results in a shorter time and the long esters will keep you goin. If you want to add a second compound, try winstrol on the end and through the bridge to pct.

    What do you guys says? Somehow i have started to repel from using Equipose.

    Also should Nolvades be used for PCT or throughout the cycle?

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    Ok here is a revised cycle of help from you guys and other forum.

    Cycle 12 weeks

    Sustanon 250 - 1ml shot EOD
    Equipoise 250 - 1ml twice a week
    HCG 500 IU every weekend
    Clen Tabs for last 2 weeks and 2 weeks after the cycle along with PCT

    Meds:
    Provironum - 2/day
    Clomiphene Citrate 50mg - 0.25/day
    Altraz - 0.25/day
    Multivitaim - 2/day
    Native 200 (vit E) - 2/day
    Shelcal 500 (Calcium) - 2/day
    B complex - 2/day
    Live 52 DS (Liver) - 2/day


    PCT:

    Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
    1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
    2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
    3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
    4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
    5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
    6 20mgs/day

    Sustain Alpha lotion for last 2 weeks of the cycle and 2 weeks after the cycle.

    Suggestions please. Planning to start off in 5-6 days from today.

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