something is seriusly wrong

[gangers]

when i inject into my bicepts or quads or calves the limb cramps up and i cant bend or move it for 4 days.

when are my muscles going to stop cramping up

[Kale]

what are you doing that requires you to inject into calves and biceps ? Seriously dude !!!

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ good ??? why calves and bis ? quads i can understand - r u injecting so often that u cant use glutes and delts if quads bother u?

[PT]

I will only inject in small groups if im doing daily injections for a long period of time

[hankdiesel]

biceps are not a big deal for me but you can forget calves

[Dougewesq]

Are you cutting it with cottonseed or grapeseed oil. If not give it a shot, works for me

[gangers]

i want my muscles to get use to it because ile be doing shots everyday in a few months.

delts are a nono for me to boney up thier.

bicepts are a good meaty place why is delts better than bicepts????

also quads are suppose to be a good place so when will they stop cramping up???

[nath78]

They shouldnt realy cramp up lol mine neva have anway..jus get a little twinch nw and again...hitting a nerve i spect,y are you doing your biceps??my mate jabbed sustanon 250 into his bicep and couldnt do nothing with it for a week...might be different with others but i thought that was a no go..delts are tidy..harly any pain,theres a piece in the educational threads that shows you how to inject into delts and other places...perhaps you aint doing it properly..i dunno.y will you be injecting everyday??whats your cycle going to look like???
Nath

[J4LDO]

imo
shoot glutes , quads , delts if you rotated that you would only hit the same spot once every 6 days , if you shoot every day that is,

anywhere else no no , well for me anyway

[vote for pedro]

I've shot delts and they have cramped up before. I think its the volume amount that makes it feel like its cramping up. Just a guess though. For me it happened every time I shot my delts

[gangers]

ile be shooting deca 450 twice a week and test-e 250 everyday.

my bicepts are not really the problem the problem is my quads and calves well u guys say calves are a no go but thier a really meaty place.

[jstraw428]

^^^^Why are you gonna take 1750mg of test e per week.....do you really need to go that high......

[chuckt12345]

^^^^Why are you gonna take 1750mg of test e per week.....do you really need to go that high......

no shit thats alot of test

[jstraw428]

so your cycle is 900mg Deca per week, with 1750mg test e per week.....

If it is bc you think you hae to take 2x the amount of test as Deca, that is completely wrong.....YOu could still run 900mg deca per week with 500mg test e and be completely fine....

[Mooseman33]

if u run that much decca, does it matter how much test you run...wont it just kill you with the sides?
thats a shi t load of juice

can ur pecker just fall off?

[jstraw428]

I have found, if i keep my test lower...I can run really high doeses of 19-nor(deca ,tren ) with very little sides.....The higher my test is, the more i experience these sides....

All you really need is a hrt dosage of test to keep everything running properly, even if they were using 900mg of deca/week

There is a misconception, that you must run your test 2x that of your deca or tren....but this is very untrue...

[gangers]

^^^^Why are you gonna take 1750mg of test e per week.....do you really need to go that high......

2000mg of test a week is considered a normal dose i hear about people on this forum who take more test than that.

all i want is to be big strong and extremely sexually active.

[jimmyinkedup]

I have found, if i keep my test lower...I can run really high doeses of 19-nor(deca ,tren ) with very little sides.....The higher my test is, the more i experience these sides....

All you really need is a hrt dosage of test to keep everything running properly, even if they were using 900mg of deca/week

There is a misconception, that you must run your test 2x that of your deca or tren....but this is very untrue...

This post makes alot of sense since estrogen is necessary for progesterone related sides associated with 19 nors(higher test = higher armitization even with estro control). i too never had issues with test lower than 19 nors...some cycle i run that way, some i dont but i never use that "rule' at all when setting up cycle ...i dont buy it.

[jimmyinkedup]

2000mg of test a week is considered a normal dose i hear about people on this forum who take more test than that.

all i want is to be big strong and extremely sexually active.

this is inaccurate info and untrue for a recreational and even some pro bodybuilders. you are grossly misinformed bro....not even close to normal dose IMO

[jstraw428]

2000mg of test a week is considered a normal dose i hear about people on this forum who take more test than that.

all i want is to be big strong and extremely sexually active.

2000mg a normal dose of test per week....who the hell are you getting your info from....that is ridiculous


What are your stats?

[jstraw428]

It has always been my philosophy, that if you are running a 19-nor(especially at high doses), just let that put the weight on you....the test is only present to make sure that everything fucntions properly....

Let the 19-nor do its job, and its job is to put hella weight on people...

high test + high 19-nor = lots of sides
moderate test + high 19-nor = very few sides

[Amorphic]

It has always been my philosophy, that if you are running a 19-nor(especially at high doses), just let that put the weight on you....the test is only present to make sure that everything fucntions properly....

Let the 19-nor do its job, and its job is to put hella weight on people...

high test + high 19-nor = lots of sides
moderate test + high 19-nor = very few sides

agreed

[jstraw428]

^^^^^^yeah, all the smart people agree.....why?.....because its correct...hooray!!!

[Amorphic]

^^^^^^yeah, all the smart people agree.....why?.....because its correct...hooray!!!

cant argue with logic after all

[Big]

guys, I strongly advise you to go read this guys earliest threads. you are wasting your time here.

Would this be ok for a second time cycle

[jstraw428]

guys, I strongly advise you to go read this guys earliest threads. you are wasting your time here.

Would this be ok for a second time cycle

I guess i will just pack up and move my knowledge elsewhere.....Thanks again Big( you cute little gerber baby, you)

[gangers]

guys, I strongly advise you to go read this guys earliest threads. you are wasting your time here.

Would this be ok for a second time cycle

YEAH i was being stupid earlier but ime not now.

how long untill i stop getting injection cramp????

[gangers]

It has always been my philosophy, that if you are running a 19-nor(especially at high doses), just let that put the weight on you....the test is only present to make sure that everything fucntions properly....

Let the 19-nor do its job, and its job is to put hella weight on people...

high test + high 19-nor = lots of sides
moderate test + high 19-nor = very few sides

well ive been on 500mg of test -e for weeks and it has only increased my sex drive a slight amount. i want more sex drive as i am good with the ladies and i want to keep it that way.

[jimmyinkedup]

id try to get my hands on some commonsensidrol ...it would do wonders for you. Read the profile on it....

[Matt]

Im confused, wouldnt it cost less if you just got yourself some viagra?

[gangers]

Im confused, wouldnt it cost less if you just got yourself some viagra?

yeah but i wanna increase muscle to.