Help with cycle(beginner)

**TommyBigBoy7** · 12-18-2008, 10:31 AM

I have Equipose,Deca ,Test 250 and Testosterone Cyponaite and Stanz(tabs) i am just wondering what the best cycle for me to take is????

21 years old
185 pounds
5,10
max bench 200kg
max squat 280kg

Good high protein diet looking to someday get into shows need advice.

**anabolicvenom** · 12-18-2008, 10:38 AM

I'd run the Test C around 400mg weekly for around 10-12 weeks. you'll see great gains just from the test. save the other gear for your next cycle. do you have your PCT on hand? if not get that b4 you even start.

**TommyBigBoy7** · 12-18-2008, 10:48 AM

Iv got gaspari novedex xt iv heard thats good from what i have read?!Should i take deca with the test?

**chuckt12345** · 12-18-2008, 11:11 AM

185 and 200kg bench? now thats impressive

your first cycle?

**TommyBigBoy7** · 12-18-2008, 11:15 AM

Nah not me 1st i used to hammer deca and sustanon 250 wen i was abit younga had no knowledge but now i want to go for it properly and really get into it(they wer just 1rep maxes by th way)

**MalibuD** · 12-18-2008, 11:16 AM

Dont use that gaspari crap, get a real pct. Nolva, clomid. You dont want to skimp on pct, spend the money now or spend it later with sides.

**chuckt12345** · 12-18-2008, 11:21 AM

k
wk
1-12 500-600mg/wk test c
1-11 500-600mg/wk deca
9-14 50 mg/day winstrol
PCT on last day of winny for 4 weeks and none of that fake crap,, real clomid and nolva
and i run an AI during cylcle

**anabolicvenom** · 12-18-2008, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

k
wk
1-12 500-600mg/wk test c
1-11 500-600mg/wk deca
9-14 50 mg/day winstrol
PCT on last day of winny for 4 weeks and none of that fake crap,, real clomid and nolva
and i run an AI during cylcle

i'd run the test 2 weeks longer than deca and drop the deca dose closer to 400mgs. personally i'd run deca 12 weeks MINIMUM
run letro throughout cycle to keep water down. WINNY is up to you. DECA AND TEST will give you awesome strength and mass gains. remember diet is everything

**Phate** · 12-18-2008, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by TommyBigBoy7

I have Equipose,Deca ,Test 250 and Testosterone Cyponaite and Stanz(tabs) i am just wondering what the best cycle for me to take is????

21 years old
185 pounds
5,10
max bench 200kg
max squat 280kg

Good high protein diet looking to someday get into shows need advice.

do you compete in powerlifting? those are very high maxes for someone your size?

**anabolicvenom** · 12-18-2008, 01:06 PM

440lbs bench press is pretty impressive. do you have any pics of yourself?

**chuckt12345** · 12-18-2008, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by anabolicvenom

440lbs bench press is pretty impressive. do you have any pics of yourself?

yea no crap,, i wanna see this guy too

**TommyBigBoy7** · 12-18-2008, 03:30 PM

No i dnt powerlift but when i dun tht my whole trainin was about power and strength to put on size im all about bodybuilding now and want to cut up.Yeah i have pics dnt know how to put thm up.got facebook though lol

**chuckt12345** · 12-18-2008, 03:35 PM

btw,, that is an advanced cycle up there,, if you want a beginner just stick with the test

**T_Own** · 12-18-2008, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by anabolicvenom

i'd run the test 2 weeks longer than deca and drop the deca dose closer to 400mgs. personally i'd run deca 12 weeks MINIMUM
run letro throughout cycle to keep water down. WINNY is up to you. DECA AND TEST will give you awesome strength and mass gains. remember diet is everything

you don't need the deca 2 weeks shorter. also, 11 weeks is fine, it takes just as long as the test and some people only do 10 weeks. if he's used it before 600mg isn't that much.

to load pics either host them on a site, or maybe even use your facebook link and use the image tags. otherwise if you have them on your comp load them as an attachment

**TommyBigBoy7** · 12-18-2008, 03:42 PM

Thanks for the advice iv got a pic up of me on the left.When i done them maxes i had alot more mass and nower near as much definition.

**chuckt12345** · 12-18-2008, 03:50 PM

solid base man if thats off the juice,,, u said beginner cycle in title of thread but you seem to have already done a few..

**MalibuD** · 12-18-2008, 03:53 PM

If this is your first cycle, your going to love the results.

**TommyBigBoy7** · 12-18-2008, 04:10 PM

No this isnt me first cycle iv took deca and sustanon wen i done them 1 rep maxes but i was bulky but i hammered it was takin silly amounts then i had a cycle of test cyp and stanz tablets.But i want to do it all the right way now so before i start on all the gear iv got im getting as much info as i can.Very grateful for all th help iv recieved guys thanks.

**TommyBigBoy7** · 12-18-2008, 04:12 PM

Oh and sorry for the misunderstanding when i said beginner in the title i meant beginner in all this cycle because when i first started taking gear i didnt have a clue about cycles etc

**jimmyinkedup** · 12-18-2008, 04:13 PM

^^^ nice ink bro .... 21 with that kind of strength id really stay natty for a few more years but thats your choice sounds like u already crossed the roid bridge before...anyway i like the ink...

**T_Own** · 12-18-2008, 04:14 PM

how much were you taking before?

intense tat btw

**TommyBigBoy7** · 12-18-2008, 04:21 PM

To much lol probs about 300ml deca 300ml sust 3x a week
Love the spiderman tatt btw thts unreal

**T_Own** · 12-18-2008, 04:24 PM

yeah.. thats a pretty hefty dose for a first cycle lol. it looks like you must have a good diet atleast, you look very solid (except the juke, that phone is awful lol)

**TommyBigBoy7** · 12-18-2008, 04:26 PM

Haha yeah th phone is shit got a new one now tho.As a say i was alot more bulky when i was on that cycle but i cut up with th stanz as ya can c by th pic

**jimmyinkedup** · 12-18-2008, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by TommyBigBoy7

To much lol probs about 300ml deca 300ml sust 3x a week
Love the spiderman tatt btw thts unreal

*L* yeah its not real its photoshop! id love to get something like it just dont wanna cover up that much chest ...who knows we'll see ....prob gonna end up covering it up sooner or later anyway so maybe ill go for it...was thinking the ripped skin effect showing muscle fiber underneath ...anyway...dont wanna steal ur thread or get off topic ....take it easy bro....

**TommyBigBoy7** · 12-18-2008, 04:36 PM

Cheers for the help its an amazin tatt think its a great idea id defo get it done if i didn hav wot iv got id maybe get superman instead lol.Any1 got any thoughts of th bsn supps range im usin syntha 6 and NO Xplode

**Sierra Mike** · 12-18-2008, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by TommyBigBoy7

Cheers for the help its an amazin tatt think its a great idea id defo get it done if i didn hav wot iv got id maybe get superman instead lol.Any1 got any thoughts of th bsn supps range im usin syntha 6 and NO Xplode

Those are the two BSN products I use. I also take True-Mass when I am trying to put on weight. Sometimes I will substitute the NO Xplode for Gaspari Nutrition's Superpump250, It gives an even better pump, but kills my stomach. BSN makes good stuff.. a little pricey, but some of the best stuff out there.
-Sierra Mike