Start of Gyno....plus other possible estrogen related issues??

[XLCanadian]

Hey guys....

Okay so I'm on week 5 of a Test Cyp cycle. For the first 4 weeks I ran 40mgs of D-bol ED and 400mg's of Cyp each week.

Decided to ramp up the test to 500mgs/week around week 4.

Since week 2 I have noticed decrease in sex drive...almost sporadic. Like it'll come and go. I have read that this could be the d-bol suppressing my sex drive. SO I'm gonna give it another week to clear my system and see where it is after a full week of just test in my system before I really get worried.

Also, I've noticed my nipples being slightly sensitive. Now maybe once a day I get a pain in the nipple for a minute or two, but it goes away. As for sensitivity, I'm in Canada, and its cold as a witches tit up here so that may have something to do with it.

Just the whole lowered sex drive, plus sensitive nipples has me concerned when you put the two together.

Was thinking of giving it a week and if things don't get better then I'll jump on some nolva or Arimidex.

Any comments, ideas, or suggestions? Any one experience this stuff before?

[peachfuzz]

although the test takes a while for you to feel sex drive is usually increased early on. from the sound of it your estrogen may be too high and for that i would suggest starting the arimidex at .25mg ED.

[XLCanadian]

but could the supressed sex drive not be the d-bol?

[XLCanadian]

in which case i could wait a week for it to clear and see how i feel?

[XLCanadian]

although the test takes a while for you to feel sex drive is usually increased early on. from the sound of it your estrogen may be too high and for that i would suggest starting the arimidex at .25mg ED.

Okay. Now what are the upsides/downsides to the Arimidex?

Up of course being reduced estrogen, but won't it reduce my gains?

[peachfuzz]

if estrogen is too high it will hurt gains as well. i doubt you will experience any hinderence of gains from .25mg a day.

[sizerp]

A-dex is over 80% effective at inhibiting aromatase, and by doing so will reduce water retention and the potential for gyno. A-dex is also mild on blood lipids and doesn't inhibit igf. Not sure if it will affect gains, maybe it will but it's worth dosing small .25-.5mg ED to prevent gyno than having to deal with it later.

[XLCanadian]

if estrogen is too high it will hurt gains as well. i doubt you will experience any hinderence of gains from .25mg a day.

And it will not hinder sex drive...just improve it?

[peachfuzz]

too high of estrogen will kill sex drive. just as too low. there is an ideal range as well as an ideal ration of T/E. if your problem is too much estrogen. which based on symptoms of decreased libido and sensitivity along with the fact that both compounds you used highly aromatize...my guess is that is your problem. and .25mg od adex is unlikely to drive estrogen too low. just my 2 cents.

[LATS60]

I agree with peach and size, adex would be the way to go but i'd consider a starting dose at 0.25mg EOD, then increase it if necessary.

[XLCanadian]

I tapered the d-bol down the last two days from 40mg's to 20 mg's....Finsished them yesterday.....I will see how it goes over the next week and grab some adex or nolva if things get worse or don't improve by Sunday.

[XLCanadian]

Thanks guys.

[XLCanadian]

Any reason as to why Adex and not Nolva?

Adex will cost me *** for 60 days.... Nolva *** for 60 days.

Why one and not the other?

[XLCanadian]

bump

[peachfuzz]

cannot post prices at all so please edit that. and you want an AI to lower estrogen. nolva does not lower estrogen.

[muhammad1185]

arimidex and nolva do completely different things, adex isnt that expensive, use the banner top right,

[XLCanadian]

As the days pass from having stopped the D-bol, the symptoms are subsiding. Sensitivity is decreased, and sex drive getting better. My source says d-bol has that effect on some ppl.

On another note, if I can;t get A-dex, will Nolva help? Two of my three sources are all out. Waiting to hear from the third source.

[sorel_C]

Hey guys....

Okay so I'm on week 5 of a Test Cyp cycle. For the first 4 weeks I ran 40mgs of D-bol ED and 400mg's of Cyp each week.

Decided to ramp up the test to 500mgs/week around week 4.

Since week 2 I have noticed decrease in sex drive...almost sporadic. Like it'll come and go. I have read that this could be the d-bol suppressing my sex drive. SO I'm gonna give it another week to clear my system and see where it is after a full week of just test in my system before I really get worried.

Also, I've noticed my nipples being slightly sensitive. Now maybe once a day I get a pain in the nipple for a minute or two, but it goes away. As for sensitivity, I'm in Canada, and its cold as a witches tit up here so that may have something to do with it.

Just the whole lowered sex drive, plus sensitive nipples has me concerned when you put the two together.

Was thinking of giving it a week and if things don't get better then I'll jump on some nolva or Arimidex.

Any comments, ideas, or suggestions? Any one experience this stuff before?

whenever i get flare ups nolva is my hero, Adex IMO in not needed for 500mgs of test,, your probably like me and just gynoprone which nolva would help out alot

[XLCanadian]

whenever i get flare ups nolva is my hero, Adex IMO in not needed for 500mgs of test,, your probably like me and just gynoprone which nolva would help out alot

I think it was the d-bol that kicked it in.. Cuz I've run this test cyp before with no sides.

Starting Nolva today. Let u guys know how things go in about a week.

[Ashop]

Hey guys....

Okay so I'm on week 5 of a Test Cyp cycle. For the first 4 weeks I ran 40mgs of D-bol ED and 400mg's of Cyp each week.

Decided to ramp up the test to 500mgs/week around week 4.

Since week 2 I have noticed decrease in sex drive...almost sporadic. Like it'll come and go. I have read that this could be the d-bol suppressing my sex drive. SO I'm gonna give it another week to clear my system and see where it is after a full week of just test in my system before I really get worried.

Also, I've noticed my nipples being slightly sensitive. Now maybe once a day I get a pain in the nipple for a minute or two, but it goes away. As for sensitivity, I'm in Canada, and its cold as a witches tit up here so that may have something to do with it.

Just the whole lowered sex drive, plus sensitive nipples has me concerned when you put the two together.

Was thinking of giving it a week and if things don't get better then I'll jump on some nolva or Arimidex.

Any comments, ideas, or suggestions? Any one experience this stuff before?

PROVIRON will come in handy here with your sex drive and anti estrogen.

[XLCanadian]

Okay guys....

Been on the nolva for awhile and everything is A-OK. Sex drive is back...sore nipples gone. Chest looks as it did before. Thanks for the advice.

As for the PROVIRON...any other benefits???

And if I come off the nolva, will the problems return? Or should I be okay after 3 - 4 weeks of use?