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    Anavar cycle - strenght, cutting - doubts!

    Hi guys,
    I've just bought anavar because I've read that you can cut while gaining strenght. I am now wondering how to organise my training to do the best use of it.

    Thank you....

    m

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    Put it away and do some research before messing up your body. What are your stats?

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    i've begun looking for some information but i get different opinions (like you need /don't need pct, you can train more / train as when off, you should eat a medium, diet / you should eat very few calories)...well those 3 are the worst doubts

    my stats are
    178 cm, 177 lbs, 16% bodyfat

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    Where are you getting this information from?

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    online boards... I read this board and an italian one

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    First off, Read this

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=368656

    This will help you research everything you need. If you have any other questions, post them in their respective places.

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    Also, 16%bf is too high to start a cycle IMO. Especially at 5'9" and 177lbs. Also, I am against an oral-only cycle. Research oral only cycles and you will realize that adding test can do a world of difference. How old are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jfew44 View Post
    Also, 16%bf is too high to start a cycle IMO. Especially at 5'9" and 177lbs. Also, I am against an oral-only cycle. Research oral only cycles and you will realize that adding test can do a world of difference. How old are you?
    thank you I've read that a while ago, will do again

    I am 28 yo. Well I'm not trying to bulk but to cut and (or) add strenght and I was curious about anavar .

    The problem is that since I have a very skinny frame, if I don't eat I don't progress, if I eat I become fat...

    I don't want to use test because I 've had a lot of acne last time and it still isn't gone(plus some gino)...so I don't want to do a strong cycle again, just a small cycle for strenght and to lose some fat

    while you don't think anavar alone is ok?

    thank you ,m.
    Last edited by cloud_strife; 12-27-2008 at 03:41 PM.

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    I would post your diet (what you eat every day) in the diet section and we will critique it. Make sure to put the macros (cals, protein, carbs, fat) down. I have always been very thin, but since learning how to diet have been able to add significant amounts of muscle. In my experience 90% of the time the problem is in the diet. Anavar alone is ok if that's what you want to do, I just won't recommend it. What was your last cycle?

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    I hope you can read xls, my diet on http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...56#post4351856

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    my last cycle (second) was sustanon 375mg/week and boldenone 400mg/week and it didn't work plus I've got too many sides( I became fat, got pimples and some gino)

    first time nandrolone decanoate 200mg/week and winstrol (I think 20mg/day) and it worked with no side effects

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud_strife View Post
    my last cycle (second) was sustanon 375mg/week and boldenone 400mg/week and it didn't work plus I've got too many sides( I became fat, got pimples and some gino)

    first time nandrolone decanoate 200mg/week and winstrol (I think 20mg/day) and it worked with no side effects
    You got fat on that cycle? EQ is known for giving no bloat and lean gains and that is a low dose of test. I would read up on diet, training and supplementation before I would touch steroids again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummerofgod87 View Post
    You got fat on that cycle? EQ is known for giving no bloat and lean gains and that is a low dose of test. I would read up on diet, training and supplementation before I would touch steroids again.
    well yes. In fact I think I used too many calories...

    what do I have to read about dieting man. Every person has his ideas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by drummerofgod87 View Post
    You got fat on that cycle?
    not during the cycle, during the PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud_strife View Post
    Hi guys,
    I've just bought anavar because I've read that you can cut while gaining strenght. I am now wondering how to organise my training to do the best use of it.

    Thank you....

    m
    Theres many ways to train,,,try DC style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by **** View Post
    Theres many ways to train,,,try DC style.
    is this DC?


    Workout:
    DC style training to the T., Mon, Wed, Fri, cardio tues-thurs empty stomach low intensity.
    Workout 1A:
    Chest- Hammer Strength Horizontal press
    Shoulders- Hammer Strength overhead press
    Triceps- Reverse Grip benches on smith machine
    Back Width- Hammer strength Behind neck pulldowns
    Back Thickness- DB rows

    Workout 2A:
    Quads- Barbell Squats
    Hams - Laying leg curls
    Calves- seated calve raises
    Biceps- preacher curls

    Workout 1B:
    Chest: Weighted Dips
    Shoulders: Smith Machine OHP
    Triceps: CG bench on smith
    Back Width: CG pulldowns
    Back Thickness: Floor deads

    Workout 2B:
    Quads: Leg Press
    Hams: SLDL
    Calves: calve raises on leg press
    Biceps: incline db curls

    Workout 1C:
    Chest - slight incline on smith
    Shoulders- DB OHP
    Triceps: Cybex Triceps ext.
    Back Width: weighted pull-ups
    back thick: rack deads

    Workout 2C:
    Quads: front squats on smith
    Hams: ???
    Calves: donkey calve raises
    biceps: pinwheel curls

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