Need some advice on new cycle

**CobraSVT000** · 12-02-2008, 08:16 PM

I am 6-1 245 been working out over 5 years.
2 years ago I did a cycle of just Trembalone and I lost a few pounds and gained a lot of strength. My objective was to loose a bit more weight to get to around 215.

Earlier this year I did a cycle of Winny combined with Equiposse

and noticed a minor gain in strength but went up to 250lbs.

I have been mostly going by the advice of guys at the gym who apparently know jack shit. What I need is a good cutting cycle if you can tell me what and how much I should do id really appreciate it.

I work out Mon-Fri for about 2 hours I do 35 to 45 min of cardio 3 times a week
and do a spinning class for an hour a week.

**Phate** · 12-02-2008, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

I am 6-1 245 been working out over 5 years.
2 years ago I did a cycle of just Trembalone and I lost a few pounds and gained a lot of strength. My objective was to loose a bit more weight to get to around 215.

Earlier this year I did a cycle of Winny combined with Equiposse

and noticed a minor gain in strength but went up to 250lbs.

I have been mostly going by the advice of guys at the gym who apparently know jack shit. What I need is a good cutting cycle if you can tell me what and how much I should do id really appreciate it.

I work out Mon-Fri for about 2 hours I do 35 to 45 min of cardio 3 times a week if you are weight training for 2 hours that is something you need to work on, keep it intense and training shouldn't last much over an hour
and do a spinning class for an hour a week.

go research and propose a cycle, then we will critique it, tell me if you need some threads to read over and i'll help you out

while we're at it, how old are you? what is your bf%? and write out your diet for critique

**CobraSVT000** · 12-02-2008, 09:06 PM

I am 28 bf 17%. if you can recommend some threads that will help me out, because there is a lot of info on the site not related to my case, so it will cut so me time for me.
about the diet what exactly do you need to know? I never really count calories just try to eat about 4 times a day and keep it lean.

**CobraSVT000** · 12-02-2008, 09:09 PM

I was reading about the HGH and having heard and seen the results on a lot of high profile celebs its sounding very very good. dont know if im too young for it. I saw on that Documentary Bigger Better Faster Stronger that it can be obtained legally with a prescription because there are no ways of measuring hormone levels hmmm

**Phate** · 12-02-2008, 09:16 PM

**Mulciber** · 12-02-2008, 09:20 PM

yeah that should keep ya busy for a bit...

**Phate** · 12-02-2008, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Mulciber

yeah that should keep ya busy for a bit...

i was thinking about putting my entire database in here but that would be just mean

**WARMachine** · 12-02-2008, 09:24 PM

^^ haha..

**CobraSVT000** · 12-02-2008, 09:44 PM

Damn this will take longer than expected in the words of Einstein "the more I know the more I know that I know nothing" lolz

**Mulciber** · 12-02-2008, 09:47 PM

information overload

**Phate** · 12-02-2008, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

Damn this will take longer than expected in the words of Einstein "the more I know the more I know that I know nothing" lolz

sorry, that was kinda mean to drop all that on you at once, but trust me, everything in there is a good read, hell, read it during cardio

Originally Posted by Mulciber

information overload

**CobraSVT000** · 12-03-2008, 07:47 AM

ok so far for cutting i like the clen w the antihistamine but i read on another post that Masterone is better? Im trying to find something to combine either one of those with not to loose any muscle while cutting and lowering bf%. remember my goal is to drop about 25-30lbs.

**Bossman** · 12-03-2008, 08:06 AM

Research clen /t3 combo. That would surely melt some of the weight off.

I wish I had a Cobra, I do have a 94 GT Conv. Fun, but no Cobra.

**inky-e** · 12-03-2008, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

ok so far for cutting i like the clen w the antihistamine but i read on another post that Masterone is better? Im trying to find something to combine either one of those with not to loose any muscle while cutting and lowering bf%. remember my goal is to drop about 25-30lbs.

Test/masteron is a sweet deal for cutting and gaining strength without gaining weight.

**CobraSVT000** · 12-03-2008, 10:12 AM

ok what do you think about this cycle, should I use the benadril every 14 days?
also im thinking I read I should take add some Trebol to keep from loosing a lot of muscle mass if so what what amounts should I take? Also what would be a good PCT for this?

I was thinking of dividing the doses in two each day.
Day 1 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 2 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 3 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 4 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 5 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 6 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day 7 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day 8 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day 9 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day10 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day11 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day12 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day13 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day14 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day15 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day16 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day17 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day18 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day19 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day20 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day21 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day22 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day23 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day24 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day25 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day26 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day27 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day28 Clen off / T3 100mcg
Day29 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day30 Clen 120mcg / T3 100mcg
Day31 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day32 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day33 Clen 120mcg / T3 75mcg
Day34 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
Day35 Clen 120mcg / T3 50mcg
Day36 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day37 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day38 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day39 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day40 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day41 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day42 Clen off / T3 25mcg

**jimmyinkedup** · 12-03-2008, 10:15 AM

im no t3 expert but is it cool to run it for that long no break? Ive only used it twice long ago and thought process then was on/off so as not to shut down thyroid completely for so long....anyone?

**tbjake34** · 12-03-2008, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

I am 6-1 245 been working out over 5 years.
2 years ago I did a cycle of just Trembalone and I lost a few pounds and gained a lot of strength. My objective was to loose a bit more weight to get to around 215.

Earlier this year I did a cycle of Winny combined with Equiposse

and noticed a minor gain in strength but went up to 250lbs.

I have been mostly going by the advice of guys at the gym who apparently know jack shit. What I need is a good cutting cycle if you can tell me what and how much I should do id really appreciate it.

I work out Mon-Fri for about 2 hours I do 35 to 45 min of cardio 3 times a week
and do a spinning class for an hour a week.

Did you run proper pct with those cycles?

**CobraSVT000** · 12-03-2008, 11:14 AM

no I didnt I was stupid to trust guys at the gym, thats why I came on this site to do research for my next cycle so that I dont waste my money or cause any harm to myself. I plan on starting mid Jan

**Bossman** · 12-03-2008, 04:51 PM

That isn't too long for T3.

I think the cycle looks good. Just a small change, but I would probably start clen at 20 mcgs on the first week. But you can still build to 120. If you haven't taken it before you may get some hella jitters when you first start. Also, I would start the T3 at 25 and ramp up from there. Good plan to ramp T3 down. Not necessary on the clen, you got it.

Cycling clen one week on/one week off negates the need for benedryl, but it won't hurt to take it. I take it more to help me sleep. You should get some taurine and supplement a couple of grams aday to keep the clen cramps away.

**CobraSVT000** · 12-04-2008, 01:09 PM

cool thanks. now whatdo you recommend for PCT? I am thinking Tren EOD 1.5

**CobraSVT000** · 12-30-2008, 08:01 PM

Wow ok been reading like a mofo lol a lot of good ideas
but still not clear on the PCT?? any suggestions?

**Big** · 12-30-2008, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

cool thanks. now whatdo you recommend for PCT? I am thinking Tren EOD 1.5

Huh???

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

Wow ok been reading like a mofo lol a lot of good ideas
but still not clear on the PCT?? any suggestions?

With all the info here, propose a cycle and pct and we will help you tweak it.

**CobraSVT000** · 12-30-2008, 08:17 PM

oh on the tren I was thinking 1.5 EOD is that about right for 6ft 245

**Big** · 12-30-2008, 08:23 PM

I would never recommend a tren only cycle. You didn't say tren a or e, and you didn't list the concentration, so "1.5" tells me nothing.

**CobraSVT000** · 12-30-2008, 08:23 PM

And go dolphins

**CobraSVT000** · 12-30-2008, 08:46 PM

not tren alone its with the cycle I posted above clen with T3
the 1.5 is 1 1/2 ml

**Big** · 12-30-2008, 08:49 PM

I knew you meant 1.5cc, what I mean was that doesn't tell me what ester tren it is or how much tren that is. clen /t3/tren would be a horrible cycle in my opinion, I wouldn't run that if you paid me.
I can't believe you read all the links posted and still think that's a good cycle and still can't propose a pct that should follow a cycle, my opinion is that you should go back to the drawing board, bump for other opinions.

**CobraSVT000** · 01-02-2009, 08:55 PM

Thanks for your time to help educate me BIG>>
I have done a complete about face.. a friend is about to start 20 weeks of Sustanon followed by 8 weeks of Winn and Acg for PCT is this a good cycle>??
I in the other hand kept reading for my cutting cycle and found Tren with 25mg of T3 daly along with Winn and test. what I need to know is what would be good dosages for my weight and age??