newbie and dbol

[bifda]

hello all
im 25 and ive been training for 10 years on and off and in the july of 08 i started an oral dbol cycle of 25mgs a day for 5 weeks.

stupidly i didnt know alot about the AS and went with gym owners advise,
which was take the dbol as above and when it runs out train even harder
to keep the gains.

my strength gain was very good, i went from 16.5 stone to 18 in them 5 weeks
and found i kept some of the size and strength, but soon after got married and laid off the gym for 3-4 months.

upon returning to the gym i found im still lifting close to those weights i was when on the dbol.

i know alot of the weight was water and that orals are not the best AS to take alone, but would it be ok to cycle this way for 5-6 weeks and then clean for the 4 following weeks and keep this cycle indefinatly? or lower it to 10-15 mgs a day?


i did get some sides:
ache in the lower back
lower sex drive later in the cycle and after
greasy face
some sleep disturbance


thanks for any advice

[honda450]

Dbol only is not a good idea. run it with test.
Sample:

Test-E 500mg/week for 12 weeks
Inject Mon/Thurs
Dbol @ 30-50mg/day weeks 1-4

PCT
Nolva 20/20/20/20
Clomid 50/50/50/50
4 weeks

Did you even run a PCT when you ran your Dbol?

[Matt]

What about your other stats

BF
Height

[Deltasaurus]

^^^^^Great Advice and you need proper Diet

[muhammad1185]

pct on dbol ? at that dose? is it necessary?

my advice- forget dbol, test/deca would be a good start, run it for 12 weeks, bro ive been on it for 3 weeks, i cnt get enuf of it. loving it.

[bifda]

what about your other stats

bf
height

20%
6' 1"

[Matt]

Before you were given advice id of asked for stats. That 20% needs to come down bro, you need to start with a good diet, and btw, yes pct..

[bifda]

so drop to 15%, get my diet right, get some pct then start a decent cycle?

would nolva be ok alone as pct?

[muhammad1185]

nolva and clomid for pct, honda 450's given you the doses previously. it depends on your goals, whether you want to bulk or cut? best thing for you at the min, is eat right, cardio, get some fat burners, try this for a few months,see how you get along, good luck

[bifda]

right, ive been thinking, id still like to go for the dbol cycle again, i had a good experince on it apart from some sides.

was thinking 20-30 mg daily for 6 weeks, then pct for 3weeks, then back on the dbol after a weeks rest.

i know its frownd upon and i should go for test, but i just want to improve my strength and size, not fussed about being shredded or competing.

any tips on pct for dbol?
i can get nolva, but dont know how much to take, do you recon that would be enougth ?

[MMArmour]

test is a bulking and strength AAS. no need to worry about getting shredded on it. its just the ticket man. do some reading and youll find its the obvious solution.

[bifda]

so am i going to get any advise on the pct, cos im gonna do it anyway.

[MMArmour]

One of those huh?

[bifda]

Pct???

[MMArmour]

sorry bro. i dont think UGL's have developed an oral for common sense.

[chuckt12345]

Pct???

im not sure what pct for a dbol only, id assume clomid and nolva would suffice. prb 50mg of clomid and 20mg of nolva for 3 or 4 weeks is plenty.

[sitries]

u need more than a week off bro you need time on plus pct off. ten weeks
then u can do another 1. i dont think dbol cycle are as bad as every1 makes out.

[chuckt12345]

u need more than a week off bro you need time on plus pct off. ten weeks
then u can do another 1. i dont think dbol cycle are as bad as every1 makes out.

? he said july

[bifda]

thanks for the positive replys, i know there are better cycles, but im starting out and dont feel comfortable with needles etc.

is clomid oral, injectable or both?

[alex18]

oral

[Big]

clomid is oral

[bifda]

thanks.
just been reading up on anavar , seems a better choice then dbol for the liver,
or could i push my luck and stack it?

[Big]

I wouldn't stack it. there are only 2 orals I would consider running solo, var or tbol.

[ironw]

hello i just received my dbol but i hate anxiety and i panic sometimes should i take this at a lower dosage say 5mg a day because i am already well built i just want my strength to increase help please.

[Big]

hello i just received my dbol but i hate anxiety and i panic sometimes should i take this at a lower dosage say 5mg a day because i am already well built i just want my strength to increase help please.

you should start a thread instead of hijacking someone else's.

[ironw]

my bad

[ironw]

how do i post a thread?

[Big]

how do i post a thread?

with the "new thread" button at the top. you can't already be in a thread, go to the proper section and post away.