Hows this look? 2nd cycle...

[caladin]

Sustanon 300 (600mg /Week (Weeks 1-10)
DECA DURABOLIN (400mg /Week (Weeks 1-9)
Dbol "oral" (50mg /ED (Weeks 1-4)
Winstrol "oral" (50mg /ED (Weeks 9-12)

Clomid (300mg for 3 days, 150 mg 4 days then 50 mg for 7 days)
"Start clomid 3 weeks after your last shot of Sos"

HCG (500IU /ED (Week 5-6,9-10) <- Not sure of this.. yet?


5'10" 195lbs
16-18%BF
31years old

[Nathan]

Looks okay to me. A few things, have you ever used d-bol before? If not, then go lighter, like 35-40mg ED tops. 50 is overkill. Also, run the clomid lionger than that. #00mg the first day in divided doses, then 100mg for at least 10 days, then 50mg for at least another 10 days. i find the 300mg on day one is kind of overkill so I prefer 150-200mg on day one and then run the 50mg period for like 15-20 days.

[caladin]

I have never used dbol .. only sos and deca on my first cycle.. about 4 years ago..

Will try 37.5 (50mg /4) see how I feel.. I should great strength and pump right?

So Clomid maybe like (200mg on day one, 100 for 4 days and 50mg for 10 days)

The reason Im wondering about the HCG is that I havent been able to score any from my source and have seen a mixed bag on result or effect. I did use it at end of first cycle but ?

Also Should I preload the sos or dec? didnt on first cycle but here that is a good idea?

Any insight here?

[trimunex]

I'm assuming you have 22 - 50mg Clomid pills. If you can try to get more than that so you could run it like Nathan suggested. Otherwise, you could go with something like 150mg day1, 100 mgs 3 days, 50mgs next 13 days. But .. more Clomid is highly recommended for a better chance of keeping gains.

On the preload question, I don't think it is something that is 'needed' .. it's more of a personal preference thing. IMO, I wouldn't preload more than 4 or 5 weeks out.

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[MBaraso]

Do you have the ** 50mg d-bols? I wouldn't see a problem w/ taking one a day, even if it is your first cycle. They're alittle underdosed anyway.

[caladin]

I have 50 50mg pills of Clomid!

then 100mg for at least 10 days, then 50mg for at least another 10 days is noproblem.

Anyone on the HCG question? I have seen people shot it once a week across the whole cycle.. I have seen them shoot it like I have it above.. I have also seen where they just shoot it the week of the 5th and the week of the 9th?

[caladin]

MBaraso,

Yes that is what I have. How underdosed are they? Any clue?

one question in referance to **. Is that how this person should be referanced on this forum? Im new to this forum but I do know who you speak of due to reading some other posts on this board.

[caladin]

/bump on th HCG ?