Critique my cycle

**CobraSVT000** · 01-06-2009, 09:47 AM

Anabar 40 mg ED to prevent muscle loss.
Day 1 Clen 40mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 2 Clen 40mcg / T3 50mcg
Day 3 Clen 60mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 4 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 5 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
Day 6 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
Day 7 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
Day 8 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day 9 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day10 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day11 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day12 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day13 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day14 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day15 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day16 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day17 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day18 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day19 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day20 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day21 Clen 120mcg / T3 125mcg
Day22 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day23 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day24 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day25 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day26 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day27 Clen off / T3 125mcg
Day28 Clen off / T3 100mcg
Day29 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
Day30 Clen 100mcg / T3 100mcg
Day31 Clen 100mcg / T3 75mcg
Day32 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
Day33 Clen 80mcg / T3 75mcg
Day34 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day35 Clen 60mcg / T3 50mcg
Day36 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day37 Clen off / T3 50mcg
Day38 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day39 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day40 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day41 Clen off / T3 25mcg
Day42 Clen off / T3 25mcg

I want to lower my %bf I don't know how much it is now but prob around 20% once i lower my bf. I was thinking about a Sustanon , Winn or Tren Cycle how long should I wait in between?

by the way im 29 245 lbs 6'. I don't count calories or anything but pretty much I have oatmeal w some peanut butter in the morning and chicken and tuna Throughout the day with lots of water.

**daem** · 01-06-2009, 12:37 PM

With a diet like that, I can understand why you are 20% bf.

You need to drop some lbs before you should even consider using steroids .

**CobraSVT000** · 01-06-2009, 01:07 PM

no shit did you even read dumbass

**Matt** · 01-06-2009, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

no shit did you even read dumbass

Ahh the kids will be back at school soon...

**CobraSVT000** · 01-07-2009, 06:45 AM

Why is is that on every post on this site 90 percent of the replies are people trying to show how much they know by criticizing others who are trying to learn instead of giving useful advice????? The whole point of this site is for poople who enjoy the same passion for body building not only as a a way to improve yourself but also people who enjoy going to the gym as a regular part of the day to exchange information and make sure that no one harms themselves!!!! I have found 1 or 2 people who gave an honest opinion and i thank them for that, but honestly the rest of you are a bunch of dick heads who have placed yourselves on a ****ing pedestal of bullshit acting as if your ****ing special because someone gave you the holy grail on roids. Get the **** over yourself and if your only purpose on this earth is to come here and talk shit then I am the one who should question you, because in the 6 years I have spent trying to do the shit clean only be disappointed I have never met any man in any gym that bitches like some of you do.

**Big** · 01-07-2009, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

no shit did you even read dumbass

first warning.
now as to your question, I do feel that your goals are easily obtainably naturally. I only believe in using chemicals to aid once natural abilities are already being recognized.

**Big** · 01-07-2009, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

Why is is that on every post on this site 90 percent of the replies are people trying to show how much they know by criticizing others who are trying to learn instead of giving useful advice????? The whole point of this site is for poople who enjoy the same passion for body building not only as a a way to improve yourself but also people who enjoy going to the gym as a regular part of the day to exchange information and make sure that no one harms themselves!!!! I have found 1 or 2 people who gave an honest opinion and i thank them for that, but honestly the rest of you are a bunch of dick heads who have placed yourselves on a ****ing pedestal of bullshit acting as if your ****ing special because someone gave you the holy grail on roids. Get the **** over yourself and if your only purpose on this earth is to come here and talk shit then I am the one who should question you, because in the 6 years I have spent trying to do the shit clean only be disappointed I have never met any man in any gym that bitches like some of you do.

second warning

**rich1234** · 01-07-2009, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

no shit did you even read dumbass

You're not gonna get any help being an ass

**CobraSVT000** · 01-07-2009, 07:53 AM

how am i being an ass when im here reading up on things and posting questions and nada??? BIG your opinion is that there is no need for chemicals, but thats fine the point is that the stuff is there and I have an interest. you cant tell me that i havent done most of what can be done naturally because you dont know. What i will not do however is waste another cent on GNC when none of that stuff does a damn thing excluding the old ripped fuel that made my ass sweat even in my sleep.

**rich1234** · 01-07-2009, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

no shit did you even read dumbass

This is being an ass

**Big** · 01-07-2009, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

how am i being an ass when im here reading up on things and posting questions and nada??? BIG your opinion is that there is no need for chemicals, but thats fine the point is that the stuff is there and I have an interest. you cant tell me that i havent done most of what can be done naturally because you dont know. What i will not do however is waste another cent on GNC when none of that stuff does a damn thing excluding the old ripped fuel that made my ass sweat even in my sleep.

I was referring to your direct violation of our no flaming rule.
in any event my assumption that you have not exploited your natural limits is based on your statement that you are approx 20%bf and wish to cut. I have been doing this a long, long time and I've never met anyone who could not cut well below 20% with proper diet and training.
in any event of you wish to use these compounds anyway, bump for advice from those who have used them. I've never needed anything like that to cut and I hit 6.5%bf at the end of this past summer. good luck.

**CobraSVT000** · 01-07-2009, 08:00 AM

yeah because its a post on lowering my %bf and asking a question, and all that dude is saying is that my diet is bad?? since when is chicken, tuna salads, and oatmeal bad??

**Big** · 01-07-2009, 08:02 AM

20%bf = either bad training, bad diet, or both. I understand you don't see it that way, but we have thousands of members who do, and it's not likely we're all wrong.

**jimmyinkedup** · 01-07-2009, 08:02 AM

20% bodyfat bro something aint good...JMO diet isnt a far fectched guess...

**CobraSVT000** · 01-07-2009, 08:06 AM

ill have them measure it again today. last time I measured it was a while back when i changed to 24hr fitness. maybe im being a little harsh on myself

**big_k** · 01-07-2009, 08:11 AM

You posted things you eat, but not in the amounts at all...That might be your problem, I know I am a Peanut Butter fiend myself and used to never count calories.

Low and Behold I did the math one day and was eating upwards of 4,000 calories (Due to overeating PB) during a cut. No wonder my weight didn't budge.

Its common knowledge that if you have such high BF % you can lower it with a solid diet, and cardio. I have been there, I have done it as have countless others.

Don't go for the quick fix, swing by the diet forum. You'll be much happier.

**chuckt12345** · 01-07-2009, 08:16 AM

how many pounds you tryin to lose b4 you wanna start a cycle. You mean to take anavar 40mg/ed? Id just lose your weight with clen /t3 and then jump on a cycle to get the muscle up. Im not sure the time off from clen to start aas but i dont think its long.

**Sherman01** · 01-07-2009, 08:16 AM

Cobra please take a step back and calm down man. The members here are simply trying to look out for you. you might not agree or like what they have to say. But remember you posted asking for advice. So when people give it and its not something you want to hear, just remember you are the one who asked for it.

I have a feeling your not 20% bf if you work out regularly and your that height and weight.

I would either do the clen /t3 combo with no juice OR I would do clen/t3 with a low dose of test. Like 250 a week, plenty to avoid any muscle or strength loss. A low doss or test alone can do amazing things as far as helping weight loss if that's your focus.

Anyway man, best of luck and keep us updated. Oh yea, if that is your dog in your avatar, give him/her a big hug for me!

**chuckt12345** · 01-07-2009, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by big_k

You posted things you eat, but not in the amounts at all...That might be your problem, I know I am a Peanut Butter fiend myself and used to never count calories.

Low and Behold I did the math one day and was eating upwards of 4,000 calories (Due to overeating PB) during a cut. No wonder my weight didn't budge.

Its common knowledge that if you have such high BF % you can lower it with a solid diet, and cardio. I have been there, I have done it as have countless others.

Don't go for the quick fix, swing by the diet forum. You'll be much happier.

Yea diet and cardio are great to drop lbs but thats not really the guys question.

**CobraSVT000** · 01-07-2009, 08:18 AM

ok i do about 35 min cardio Mon-Fri and on Tuesdays I do a 50 min Spinning class.. I used to eat at noon and and not eat till after the workout, but I read here that cardio isnt good on an empty stomach.
after the cardio sometimes before, we do chest and tri on monday, Tuesday after the spinning I usually do some biceps, Wed we do Legs and traps, Thursdays we do back, and Fridays Shoulders and a little more biceps sometimes we swim for half hour.

We have been doing this with changes every 3 or so months as a group for 3 years. and two of us had been training a few years before that.
the first 2 years we all changed a lot and made good gains which have stayed. now we are all sort of stuck and havent continued to see any changes.

Like I said before my diet isnt perfect I know that, but at the same time it is mostly healthy food. maybe I eating to many of to few times a day?? or my genetics said hey this is it for you??

**big_k** · 01-07-2009, 08:21 AM

Try to bump your cardio up a little more. Maybe to 45 minutes, and slowly creeping up to an hour.

**Big** · 01-07-2009, 08:22 AM

post up a current picture and let us see what you're working with.

**chuckt12345** · 01-07-2009, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by CobraSVT000

ok i do about 35 min cardio Mon-Fri and on Tuesdays I do a 50 min Spinning class.. I used to eat at noon and and not eat till after the workout, but I read here that cardio isnt good on an empty stomach.
after the cardio sometimes before, we do chest and tri on monday, Tuesday after the spinning I usually do some biceps, Wed we do Legs and traps, Thursdays we do back, and Fridays Shoulders and a little more biceps sometimes we swim for half hour.

We have been doing this with changes every 3 or so months as a group for 3 years. and two of us had been training a few years before that.
the first 2 years we all changed a lot and made good gains which have stayed. now we are all sort of stuck and havent continued to see any changes.

Like I said before my diet isnt perfect I know that, but at the same time it is mostly healthy food. maybe I eating to many of to few times a day?? or my genetics said hey this is it for you??

Well if you do that much cardio during the week and your eating fairly decent, with clen you will lose fat.

**CobraSVT000** · 01-07-2009, 08:24 AM

thanks for the replies guys. yeah Sherman thats my dog shes almost 7 and that dog on Marley and ME was a nice dog compared to how she was the first 2 years lol

**alex18** · 01-07-2009, 08:31 AM

Cobra - i had a friend in a very similar situation who was getting very frustrated with his work out and diet. His problem was he worked a similar regime(sp?) to you but went out on the beer 2 or 3 times a week and drank a shed load. This is where all is empty calories were coming from. Not saying your a drinker or anything just thought i'd share - anyway he quit drinking for 90 days and he lot a lot of BF!!

**CobraSVT000** · 01-07-2009, 08:38 AM

http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...t=DSC00626.jpg

**Big** · 01-07-2009, 08:53 AM

This should help. I'd guess about 22% from what I see just judging from the arm/shoulder definition, really need a better pic.

**CobraSVT000** · 01-07-2009, 08:54 AM

ok i guess I cant post a picture like that. I posted it on private.
Alex damn have you been following me lol yeah its been A long football season got a little carried away. I wasnt used to the Dolphins winning a game past Nov.

**CobraSVT000** · 01-07-2009, 08:59 AM

juice or no juice im looking for a way to maximize the time at the gym and trying to improve. Im really not concerned with being Huge what im looking for is for defined muscles and a healthier way... but