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    Deca and Equipoise?

    ok things have gotten worst i could barely workout due to tendon pains
    and am therefore taking out D-bol
    and either putting in

    Deca
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    Equipoise
    im thinking 400mg (im doing 400 test so i should i do 400 deca or 300?)
    im not sure how long deca 9 weeks
    or
    Equipoise 10 weeks
    help me out guys do i keep pct same i dont whant my balls to go during i whant to keep them up and running but i think test will do that for me.

    allot of you are saying simple cycle yes you ar right.
    but what is the use of only test cycle when i can barley work out due to pains
    hopefully deca or equipoise should sought that out

    Test cyp week 1-10@400mg
    ?deca?
    ?boldenon?
    adex 0.25 eod


    hcg

    pct
    nolca
    clomid

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    how far into the cycle are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    how far into the cycle are you?
    not started yet

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    deca would help out with joint pain and not EQ, im guessing your in the first 3-4 weeks of your cycle, so i dont know about adding in either if youre already getting into it

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    nvm then, forget about my first post, i thought you alreday started, use deca IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by vishus View Post
    nvm then, forget about my first post, i thought you alreday started, use deca IMO
    what dosage
    200mg
    300mg
    400mg

    and is there any other stuff that i require to take to stay a bit safe with deca . how would my hcg change as i understand deca is hard on the balls so should i add more hcg or split it into 2500iu upto pct so ill start at week 7
    one shot every week

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    what is the cause of the tendon pains you mentioned in this first post, and what would that have to do with dbol if you haven't started the cycle yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrucie View Post
    what dosage
    200mg
    300mg
    400mg

    and is there any other stuff that i require to take to stay a bit safe with deca . how would my hcg change as i understand deca is hard on the balls so should i add more hcg or split it into 2500iu upto pct so ill start at week 7
    one shot every week
    take 400mg twice inj weekly IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBrucie View Post
    ok things have gotten worst i could barely workout due to tendon pains
    and am therefore taking out D-bol
    and either putting in

    Deca
    or
    Equipoise
    im thinking 400mg (im doing 400 test so i should i do 400 deca or 300?)
    im not sure how long deca 9 weeks
    or
    Equipoise 10 weeks
    help me out guys do i keep pct same i dont whant my balls to go during i whant to keep them up and running but i think test will do that for me.

    allot of you are saying simple cycle yes you ar right.
    but what is the use of only test cycle when i can barley work out due to pains
    hopefully deca or equipoise should sought that out

    Test cyp week 1-10@400mg
    ?deca?
    ?boldenon?
    adex 0.25 eod


    hcg

    pct
    nolca
    clomid
    You could run the DECA at 400mg per wk. Some even like a blend of EQ/DECA which does work well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    what is the cause of the tendon pains you mentioned in this first post, and what would that have to do with dbol if you haven't started the cycle yet?
    thats what i was wondering... the other thing, is why start a cycle if you're having joint pain? why not take some time off, maybe try some PT, then come back in a few months and hit the weights again, then start your cycle

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    I don't see where the pain is coming from either. I have heard of people getting joint pains from long use of gear, but I have been on for over 6-8 months and i'm not getting any joint pain.

    Starting a cycle up now with pain will NOT help the situation. However Deca is normally used to help with pain, but I have not used it personally.

    You are going to start a cycle and the pain is gonna get worse and then you will have to quit working out while you have started your cycle and it will be a waste.

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    dude we already went through a 3 page hypthetical what if this, then what if that, what should i do...... blah blha blah . Its your first cycle...stop trying to f with it...do it right and when u are healthy enough physically to benefit from it. Id stick with the test only...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    dude we already went through a 3 page hypthetical what if this, then what if that, what should i do...... blah blha blah . Its your first cycle...stop trying to f with it...do it right and when u are healthy enough physically to benefit from it. Id stick with the test only...
    Tendonitis is CHRONIC which sucks i go to physio paid for osteopath and alternative chinese medicine it always comes back
    hence reason for deca (and i just brought MSM and B6 and have been taking glucosomine)


    200mg deca weeks 1-9
    400mg test cyp weeks 1-10
    adex eod

    Hcg week 11

    week 12
    nolva 50/40/40/20
    clomid 40/40/40/40

    can i just inject deca and test in same syringe is it ok to mix them?
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    get ready for my macros

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    Cool Diet with macros

    my current diet please add to it as you see fit

    cal protien carb fat sodium
    breakfast
    8 egg whites ? ? ? ? ?
    125g oats 516 16 87 11 0
    on whey 110 24 2 1 50
    milk 192 9..9 7 14.1 0
    cod liver 10 ? 0 100mg 0
    AST multipro/glucosomine /MSM/B6

    meal 2
    Metr MRP (i can change this for ON wight gainer ?)
    240 38 17 2.5 150

    Meal 3
    15ocz chicken ? ? ? ? ?
    350g mix veg 199 11.2 29.8 3.05 3.05
    flax seed 10 0 0 1 0
    slice bread 86 4 15 1.1 0.34

    Meal 4
    162gr Rice 625 13 124 4.6 0
    on whey 110 24 2 1 50


    meal 5 p/w
    150gr pasta 525 17.25 107 2.85 0
    on whey 220 48 4 2 100

    meal 6
    tuna can 105 25 0 0.5 0
    milk 192 9.9 7 14.1 0
    flax seed 10 0 0 1 0
    TS peanut butter ? ? ? ? ?
    casien 120 23 3 2 150
    AST multipro/glucosomine /MSM/detox


    on cycle planing on adding extra

    150ocz chick (nutrition value unknown)
    can salmon 166 18.9 0 10 0
    100gr oats P/w
    maybe 4 egg whits in meal 6 (nutrition value unknown)

    this is my CURRENT DIET NOT ON CYCLE

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    how are you manging to work out witn your chronic tendonitis right now and since you are why is the addition of deca necessary to your first cycle? Just wondering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    how are you manging to work out witn your chronic tendonitis right now and since you are why is the addition of deca necessary to your first cycle? Just wondering...


    very painful and not pushing as heavy on chest or shoulder.
    now that i put up macros any help?

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    i guess not

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    bro i dont know if u posted this in the diet thread or not, if not i recommend you do. I am not a nutritionist...its taken me years to figure out what individually works for me as far as cutting and bulking most effecitvely and who's to say that will work for you. Go to the diet thread read some sample diets ..set one up based on your goals with appropriate macros /caloric intake / eating intervals and get to work. WTF?...you want someone to do the cycle for you as well? Best of luck and keep us posted on your progress....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    bro i dont know if u posted this in the diet thread or not, if not i recommend you do. I am not a nutritionist...its taken me years to figure out what individually works for me as far as cutting and bulking most effecitvely and who's to say that will work for you. Go to the diet thread read some sample diets ..set one up based on your goals with appropriate macros /caloric intake / eating intervals and get to work. WTF?...you want someone to do the cycle for you as well? Best of luck and keep us posted on your progress....
    true true lol

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    jeteye start your own thread

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    ok jeteye I started a thread for you here:
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=370732
    so you will stop hijacking this other guy's thread. you really need to learn to use the forum...

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