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    Help me Cut Fast

    I want to get ready for the summer starting now.

    I want to cut SUPER fast so i can run something for size and mass right at the start of summer.

    My question is, What can i run to lose FAT super fast? like clen , caffeine, ephedrine, even addarol or something?

    Listing cheap/simple stacks would be awesome, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayz View Post
    I want to get ready for the summer starting now.

    I want to cut SUPER fast so i can run something for size and mass right at the start of summer.

    My question is, What can i run to lose FAT super fast? like clen , caffeine, ephedrine, even addarol or something?

    Listing cheap/simple stacks would be awesome, thanks
    stats?

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    cycle clen for 2 weeks. then do ephedrine for 2 weeks while u off clen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clumsy View Post
    cycle clen for 2 weeks. then do ephedrine for 2 weeks while u off clen.
    really bad idea bro, shouldn't give advice if you are asking about it in another thread

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    in the other thread am just asking for something to take to preserve muscle while taking T3. and am just saying what i read , here, on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clumsy View Post
    cycle clen for 2 weeks. then do ephedrine for 2 weeks while u off clen.
    We normally recieve stats before giving answers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by clumsy View Post
    in the other thread am just asking for something to take to preserve muscle while taking T3. and am just saying what i read , here, on this forum.
    where? ephedrine and ephedra hit the same receptors as clen so using them in an alternating schedule is like superseting leg press with squat, it will hit the same receptors and downregulate it

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    21 years old
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    i estimate my bf% @ 15-20 max

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    15-20% if a big margin for error do u have any pics?
    If you start cutting now with diet and Cardio and gradually bump the cardio u should be shredded for summer

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    try diet and cardio, it works best. be smart about it and bulk now then cut before summer
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    AM cardio with cup of coffee and a Clean diet with Post WO cardio and carb cycling should do the trick

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    whats ur take on tren ace?

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    whos take?

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    dude i know how to diet and shit, ive done it many times.

    im talking about DRUGS. not diet and cardio.

    i honestly could care less how i do it, i just want the fat gone FAST.
    im not gonna waste my time dieting for 3 months again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
    15-20% if a big margin for error do u have any pics?
    If you start cutting now with diet and Cardio and gradually bump the cardio u should be shredded for summer
    see the thing is, im not just cutting to get in shape just in time for summer.

    i want to lose the fat faster than normal so that i can start running a mass cycle BEFORE summer hits.

    i dont have any recent pics.

    but i look A LOT like darksyde, he is just a tiny bit leaner than me in his avatar.

    my stomach and face are the only places i get fat where its noticeable

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    there are alot of people like you out there that think some drug is going to cut them up but its not going to happen my man. unless your going to use pgcl or dnp there isnt a drug that will cut you up without cardio and diet. im sorry but there isnt an easy way this time
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    waste your time dieting n shit? maybe just get some m*** or something?

    really you look like me? i have a 32 inch waist, 51 inch chest, 20 inch arms, 28 inch quads.. i am a professional muscle model actually, i make a living off of my body.

    so hmm if i was in your postition, i look like me but with 10% more body fat what would i do.... oh no, you probably dont want to hear it... calorie restrictions! macros! reduced carb intake! meal timing! *gasp* a food scale!!!

    there are no secrets here, just the discipline to stick to the program.

    *kidding about the m***, please dont ban me*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksyde View Post
    waste your time dieting n shit? maybe just get some or something?

    really you look like me? i have a 32 inch waist, 51 inch chest, 20 inch arms, 28 inch quads.. i am a professional muscle model actually, i make a living off of my body.

    so hmm if i was in your postition, i look like me but with 10% more body fat what would i do.... oh no, you probably dont want to hear it... calorie restrictions! macros! reduced carb intake! meal timing! *gasp* a food scale!!!

    there are no secrets here, just the discipline to stick to the program.

    *kidding about the , please dont ban me*
    just edit it out since rec drug names aren't allowed on here

    nice rant btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayz View Post
    dude i know how to diet and shit, ive done it many times.

    im talking about DRUGS. not diet and cardio.

    i honestly could care less how i do it, i just want the fat gone FAST.
    im not gonna waste my time dieting for 3 months again.
    if you know how to diet and shit, then no use hearing my advice cause it would be excatly that! when cutting diet and cardio bout 85% all you need, the other 15% is determination, but sounds like your lacking in that area, and want a fictional easy way out.

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    you need diet and cardio and could still be on a cycle by summer if your dedicated, 15-20 percent fat is too much for a cycle even if cutting! because it means you dont know the fundamentals of a solid diet so aas would be a waste anyway if you cant supplement them with proper dieting so get on the diet wagon sit next to me ill show you my boy LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksyde View Post
    waste your time dieting n shit? maybe just get some m*** or something?

    really you look like me? i have a 32 inch waist, 51 inch chest, 20 inch arms, 28 inch quads.. i am a professional muscle model actually, i make a living off of my body.

    so hmm if i was in your postition, i look like me but with 10% more body fat what would i do.... oh no, you probably dont want to hear it... calorie restrictions! macros! reduced carb intake! meal timing! *gasp* a food scale!!!

    there are no secrets here, just the discipline to stick to the program.

    *kidding about the m***, please dont ban me*
    Toooo late.. you are out of here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksyde View Post
    whos take?
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    yes darksyde, i do look exactly like you, but my waist is like 34 inches, everything else is the same.

    so seeing as i am as big as you all while being lazy and undetermined with poor diet, i guess that means my genetics are superior?.....

    anyways, none of you are telling me anything i dont already know. i admit i am lazy, why else would i be asking for an easy way out? lmao

    is there a rule somewhere that says i have to be what you want me to be?

    sorry im no boyscout like you.

    and btw, bodybuilder1107.... you are an embarassment.


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    honestly, who doesnt want the easy way out? none of you can sit there and not wish you could make changes super fast.

    get off your high-horses you boyscouts. stop trying to impress people with your fake attitudes.

    try being real for a change.

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    being real is realising there is no easy way out to get ripped, otherwise everyone would be. Just hard work and will power. most drugs that do help you cut are only good if you 11% or lower. If you do find some magic potion for easy way out, send me a bucket load, or you could make yourself very rich selling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayz View Post
    yes darksyde, i do look exactly like you, but my waist is like 34 inches, everything else is the same.

    so seeing as i am as big as you all while being lazy and undetermined with poor diet, i guess that means my genetics are superior?.....

    anyways, none of you are telling me anything i dont already know. i admit i am lazy, why else would i be asking for an easy way out? lmao

    is there a rule somewhere that says i have to be what you want me to be?

    sorry im no boyscout like you.

    and btw, bodybuilder1107.... you are an embarassment.

    hey, we have another internet tough guy, seeing as you aren't being told anything you don't already know, how bout leaving, as you aren't helping this forum out at all or really being beneficial in any way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayz View Post
    dude i know how to diet and shit, ive done it many times.

    im talking about DRUGS. not diet and cardio.

    i honestly could care less how i do it, i just want the fat gone FAST.
    im not gonna waste my time dieting for 3 months again.
    Well, im not going to suggest any diet er cardio since thats not what you are locking for, but read up on DNP if you wont.. It will get u shredded fast, but you will feel like shit, smell like shit and also probably look a little shitty while on it.. But read up on it before using it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodybuilder1107 View Post
    you need diet and cardio and could still be on a cycle by summer if your dedicated, 15-20 percent fat is too much for a cycle even if cutting! because it means you dont know the fundamentals of a solid diet so aas would be a waste anyway if you cant supplement them with proper dieting so get on the diet wagon sit next to me ill show you my boy LOL

    why is that does the truth hurt? tough man you came here for advice if you wanna give advice because you know so much then dont post threads asking questions and there is no easy way out if you had any kind of ambition or real bodybuilder attitude then you would allready know and have accepted that , but its all oyu bro, good luck in the future i know your type all to well and i think i know what it holds for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayz View Post
    21 years old
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    i estimate my bf% @ 15-20 max
    and furthermore there is no way you could look like darkside with those stats bro imo im 240 pounds and less body fat than you and im not as big as him so all i can say is silence us all and post a pic
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    Try some dieting and shit. If you can't drop 15-30 pounds by summer, then you are simply lazy. Since you know how to diet and shit.

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    just out of curiosity, why wouldn't you wait and cycle when cutting? its my .02 you are not a novice bodybuilder and would loose most of your gains from the cycle when you decide to cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjelle83 View Post
    Well, im not going to suggest any diet er cardio since thats not what you are locking for, but read up on DNP if you wont.. It will get u shredded fast, but you will feel like shit, smell like shit and also probably look a little shitty while on it.. But read up on it before using it..

    thank you. thats what im talking about.

    you are all just trying to flame me and making yourselves look stupid. YES, i am for real.

    and if ur 240 and not as big as darksyde, thats sad.

    Thank You to the guy who actually understood what i meant and helped me out.

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    you should read about all the people that have died from dnp injestion too..

    or those of use that were so sick from it we won't run it again after 3 different cycles..

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    DNP is some nasty stuff, no one should use that imo.
    would you consider posting pics so we can see what you're working with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darksyde View Post
    waste your time dieting n shit? maybe just get some m*** or something?

    really you look like me? i have a 32 inch waist, 51 inch chest, 20 inch arms, 28 inch quads.. i am a professional muscle model actually, i make a living off of my body.

    so hmm if i was in your postition, i look like me but with 10% more body fat what would i do.... oh no, you probably dont want to hear it... calorie restrictions! macros! reduced carb intake! meal timing! *gasp* a food scale!!!

    there are no secrets here, just the discipline to stick to the program.

    *kidding about the m***, please dont ban me*

    then that pic doesnt due you justice dark,, you look about 30% bf in your avy.

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    i dont have any recent pics. here are all i could find, from last year.

    i have about the same bf% now as i do in these pics.










    those are the only ones i could find. they are from last year so i think i was around 210-215 there. i am 220-225 right now but the bf% is about the same.

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