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    Test Cyp switch To Test E?

    Myself and My brother started our cycle 3 weeks ago ( as shown )

    Cyp 500 mg week1-12
    EQ 400mg week1-12

    My body has adjusted well to the Cyp ( Went through a bit of the test flu in week 2 but only lasted 2 days!

    Entering our 4th week and I'm starting to see some strength gains and size also.

    My brother on the other hand is not adjusting well to the Cyp by any means.

    The swelling is too much for him to handle and the test flu has happened 3 weeks in a row. He wants to switch 3 weeks in from test Cyp to Test Enth

    Is this ok to do.

    He also wants to throw Deca in also.

    His cycle would consist of this.

    EQ 400mg 1-12
    Test Ent 500mg 3-12
    Deca 250-500 mg 3-9

    Any recomendations , please dont ask for sats etc!!

    Were both 6'2
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    8 bf

    5 or so cycle exp.

    Please help guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper13 View Post
    Myself and My brother started our cycle 3 weeks ago ( as shown )

    Cyp 500 mg week1-12
    EQ 400mg week1-12

    My body has adjusted well to the Cyp ( Went through a bit of the test flu in week 2 but only lasted 2 days!

    Entering our 4th week and I'm starting to see some strength gains and size also.

    My brother on the other hand is not adjusting well to the Cyp by any means.

    The swelling is too much for him to handle and the test flu has happened 3 weeks in a row. He wants to switch 3 weeks in from test Cyp to Test Enth

    Is this ok to do.
    yes they are almost identical, only difference is one carbon atom in the ester of cypionate
    He also wants to throw Deca in also.
    not a good idea, deca takes 5-6 weeks minimum to reach peak blood levels so it would be a waste
    His cycle would consist of this.

    EQ 400mg 1-12
    Test Ent 500mg 3-12
    Deca 250-500 mg 3-9

    Any recomendations , please dont ask for sats etc!!

    Were both 6'2
    215
    8 bf

    5 or so cycle exp.

    Please help guys.
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    ? EQ=Boldegen

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    bold means my answers are in bold in your quote, look up^^^

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    always have ur decca in smaller mg then your test....but why run eq and decca when there almost identical....just run the EQ....

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    what if he stayed on the Deca till week 12..would that be better?

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    People compare the 2 but they are not that identical at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE-ORICLE View Post
    always have ur decca in smaller mg then your test....but why run eq and decca when there almost identical....just run the EQ....
    1) provide backup on why deca should be run lower than test, not true

    2) deca and eq are not even close to identical in how they work

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    Phate ( you obviously know what your talkin about ) If he ran the decca for the full 3-12 would it be ok to stack all 3 of those compounds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper13 View Post
    what if he stayed on the Deca till week 12..would that be better?
    the problem is that deca needs to be stopped two weeks before the test so his cycle would have to look like this


    Test Ent 500mg 3-17
    Deca 250-500 mg 3-15

    to really get the benefit from deca, just have him run the enth and eq and try a deca/test/dbol or anadrol cycle next time

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    sorry, i should have explained as well

    the reason you run test two weeks past deca is so your pct times line up i.e. it takes deca two extra weeks longer than test enth to be out of your system once you stop

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    i always thought they were eq being the better of the 2..this is what i was told...thats alll

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    well to tell you the truth, he's gonna do what he wants. And he's stuck on this idea.. So phate ..Can you tell me the best way to throw the deca into the current cycle:

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE-ORICLE View Post
    i always thought they were eq being the better of the 2..this is what i was told...thats alll
    they do different things, deca is a legendary mass builder when coupled with test

    eq is more known for clean gains and appetite increase

    go read the profiles and they will show you the difference

    btw bro, i have no problem with you personally or anything, but don't give advice you can't back up or aren't sure about, remember we are messing with lethal and vital chemicals here

    your advice could hurt someone if you don't know what you are talking about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper13 View Post
    well to tell you the truth, he's gonna do what he wants. And he's stuck on this idea.. So phate ..Can you tell me the best way to throw the deca into the current cycle:
    your his brother, tell him to cut his shit cause it's just gonna be like throwing the deca down the toilet

    gear is good for 2-3 years so tell him to save it until his next cycle

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    ok bro...thanx man!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE-ORICLE View Post
    always have ur decca in smaller mg then your test....but why run eq and decca when there almost identical....just run the EQ....
    no reason to have deca lower than test provided at least an HRT dose of test is present, and I love deca and won't even run EQ if that tells you anything about the similarities. All is not as it seems on paper, those that think they are the same probably havent used a lot of both.

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    yeah i havnt used eq..i was told that eq was the cadilliac of the deca thats all

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE-ORICLE View Post
    yeah i havnt used eq..i was told that eq was the cadilliac of the deca thats all
    Dan Duchaine told the steroid community that EQ was like deca only stronger, unfortunately that was less than accurate to put it nicely. Many books and articles of the era repeated his info, but it just doesn't wash out in real world applications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE-ORICLE View Post
    yeah i havnt used eq..i was told that eq was the cadilliac of the deca thats all
    If you look at the chemical name...it's just an esterafied version of Dbol ... although it has completely different effects.

    Both Deca and EQ are known to be mild in terms of sides, Mass builders and able to boost RBC.. Deca is by far the better mass builder of the 2. You'd be pressed to find many true fans of EQ on this site. Most will say it isn't worht the time, effort and money

    Also, some people run only TRT doses of Testosterone with Deca/Tren and others. This practice seems to become more common

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