So after long thought, i'm going to run a 12 month cycle.

[Maverick_J8]

Just finished cutter - Test P and Tren A - now 2 days in to PCT.

I now plan to run a 12 month cycle, bascially 3 blast cycles, with a 250/wk cruise in between. HCG at 500iu every/k, once a wk.

Now regarding current PCT, as soon as the compounds arrive would it be fine to go straight on the cruise dose of 250/wk? Maybe run PCT for the full 30 days, then on? Or run PCT then one month off etc?

Advices welcomed.

PCT:

Clomid - 100mg/day
Nolva - 20mg/day
Aromasin - 25mg/day

[bahrianite]

whats the hurry bro!!you are still very young,dont start cruising!!

[daem]

Well, the good thing is there are only 2 possibilities...Continue PCT and take time off or resume.

Personally, I would continue directly into this new cruise as PCT really isn't going to make a difference.

Why suffer through low test levels and the pitfalls of recovery when you can just get onto the cruise dosage and not worry?

I'd save the PCT gear for the future bro.

Good luck.

[auslifta]

how about cruising on HGH all year that will bridge your 3 cycles?

[Maverick_J8]

Well, the good thing is there are only 2 possibilities...Continue PCT and take time off or resume.

Personally, I would continue directly into this new cruise as PCT really isn't going to make a difference.

Why suffer through low test levels and the pitfalls of recovery when you can just get onto the cruise dosage and not worry?

I'd save the PCT gear for the future bro.

Good luck.

But continue PCT until compounds arrive would be the best option right now, agree? Surely being "shut down" with no aids would be worse.

Thanks bro.

[Maverick_J8]

how about cruising on HGH all year that will bridge your 3 cycles?

Have looked in to this, but my conclusion is/was GH doesn't come close to Test for cruising/bridging purposes.

[auslifta]

just thinking about your HPTA, what are your goals?

[Maverick_J8]

just thinking about your HPTA, what are your goals?

Goals: In order by top priority.

Maintain conditioning - 5-6% b/f.
Strength - example: I'm currently deadlifting 220kg 484lb for 1. Hope to get that up to 8.
Gain another 10lbs (slow) i'm currently 180-185lb.

[CMPD213]

So you're going for lean muscle gains.. Besides the 250mg/wk for cruise what are the cycles/blasts you plan on doing? Show it with the weeks 1-52

[jimmyinkedup]

i know it may sound crazy but had better at the very least have your test in order up front here. It is unlikely that u would have issue getting it BUT it would sure suck to have to alter or change cruise and blast 1 year plan b/c you run out of required juice. You should IMO have all gear set if financially possible (may sound crazy but....)That(running out of required compound)would certainly throw a wrench in your game plan. Anyway....at 23 that not my idea of a good idea...but it is 100% personal choice.....best of luck to you...

[jstraw428]

Why is all your gear/pct not already available....should have all of this befor you start your cycle...

[Deltasaurus]

He has his PCT he decided at the end of this cycle to Keep it going

[jstraw428]

Ok, gotcha......How old is the OP?

[Maverick_J8]

i know it may sound crazy but had better at the very least have your test in order up front here. It is unlikely that u would have issue getting it BUT it would sure suck to have to alter or change cruise and blast 1 year plan b/c you run out of required juice. You should IMO have all gear set if financially possible (may sound crazy but....)That(running out of required compound)would certainly throw a wrench in your game plan. Anyway....at 23 that not my idea of a good idea...but it is 100% personal choice.....best of luck to you...

Everything will be up front - recently ordered after decision was made. Waiting for the arrival.

Thank you bro.

Why is all your gear/pct not already available....should have all of this befor you start your cycle...

Think maybe you've read something incorrect. There's no case of not having everything available before cycle. I thought only "newbies" make that mistake.

[Maverick_J8]

So you're going for lean muscle gains.. Besides the 250mg/wk for cruise what are the cycles/blasts you plan on doing? Show it with the weeks 1-52

Post up shortly.

[Matt]

Good luck with this Maverick, keep us posted...

[jstraw428]

Again, how old are you.....12 month cycle is a little rediculous.....

[jstraw428]

your profile says 23 years old, is that up to date, or 2yrs old.......

Still, even 25 is a bit young to be looking to stay on year round....there is no reason to do a 12 month cycle, when you say you just completed a cycle....

I am almost 29 years old, and have thought about crusising, but would never do it this young...

[Maverick_J8]

your profile says 23 years old, is that up to date, or 2yrs old.......

Still, even 25 is a bit young to be looking to stay on year round....there is no reason to do a 12 month cycle, when you say you just completed a cycle....

I am almost 29 years old, and have thought about crusising, but would never do it this young...

23, yes.

Recovery is very much possible after the 12 months. And yes it's fact, the longer one is on, the less chance of recovery; but then there's also the fact, that the younger one is, the more chance they have.

[jstraw428]

Well to each his own brotha, i just think your overdoing it with your drugs...by you picture, you look good bro.....keep doing what your doing....and i am pretty sure it wasnt 12month cycles that got you there....

Too young IMO to cruise....

[jimmyinkedup]

i know it may sound crazy but had better at the very least have your test in order up front here. It is unlikely that u would have issue getting it BUT it would sure suck to have to alter or change cruise and blast 1 year plan b/c you run out of required juice. You should IMO have all gear set if financially possible (may sound crazy but....)That(running out of required compound)would certainly throw a wrench in your game plan. Anyway....at 23 that not my idea of a good idea...but it is 100% personal choice.....best of luck to you...

huh jstaw coincidence we agree .....or common sense....

[Deltasaurus]

I think that Pic is Pre-Cycle

[Maverick_J8]

I think that Pic is Pre-Cycle

That's correct.

[jstraw428]

If that pic is pre cycle, and you just got done with a cycle.....then i would have to say YOU ARE A DUMBASS.....you got great results....stick with the shorter cycles until you are a bit older.....but i am done preaching....

[Someguy123]

If your goals are simply to improve your strength. And put on a few pounds. I am amazed you would consider something like this.

why would you put your body through this kind of abuse, if it wasnt for something major?? like pro competition.

anyway, it sounds like your mind is made up. and its your body, so do what you want. with that said. what day did you take your last shot of test?? and when is your gear expected to arrive?? you might not need to waste your PCT stuff.

but if you are running real low on test right now. then personally, i would just run the PCT, till everything is there. and then go straight into your cruise. just like you have planned.

[SuperLift]

23, yes.

Recovery is very much possible after the 12 months. And yes it's fact, the longer one is on, the less chance of recovery; but then there's also the fact, that the younger one is, the more chance they have.

Why chance it bro? for only 10-20lbs in weight gain? Not worth it to me..

[SuperLift]

Just do another cycle of test/tren. You should be able to gain another 10 lbs easy while maintaining your bf %.

[T_Own]

huh jstaw coincidence we agree .....or common sense....

i'll join that ship.. if all you want is to be stronger and a little bigger, why not just do 2-3 normal cycles in a year with no cruise? even if you wanted to be a pro BB, you would have to lose the physique to put on size, they are all leaner than that but 100 pounds heavier almost. imo, don't do it, just hit normal cycles and not take the chance on recovery, but it seems too late to change your mind

[mx3]

If you wanted to gain as much weight as possible and still stay lean then I would say go for it but since you only want to gain ten lbs and keep lean I would say dont cruise run two or three cycles in the next year and run gh all year. that way you can stay lean but still recover.

[romo6]

Well mavrick i know you have done your research on this i already commented on your other thread.Hey good luck.

[Maverick_J8]

1 week in to PCT and no loss in size or strength whatsoever. The positives to lean gains.

If things continue, i'm going to stay off for 12 weeks, stabilize hormone levels, then run another cycle - subsequently giving me more time to decide.

[Immortal Soldier]

LOL I remember your beginning threads on this matter Maverick, it went from "I'd like to know what cruisers and blasters do (for informational reasons only) to what are the consequences of crusing/blasting at 23 to im going to cruise and blast"

Are you planning on doing competitions? If so I could see why you would cruise and blast, but if its just to gain more strength and few pounds than thats a waste imo.

Why not run HGH for the whole year? Doesn't it start to cause hyperplasia? (Splitting of muscle cells)

[hankdiesel]

The temptation to stay on steroids all the time is I guess just to great for some people. I'm 28 and still no where near cruising and blasting status. Sorry to poop on your parade Maverick.

[Maverick_J8]

So at the moment i'm still undecided... I keep thinking about the future and regrets. I want to have kids. Then, 5 minutes later, I'm back to favoring the cruise. It's driving me nuts.

1 week 5 days in to PCT.

I have to say, and without whining like a little bitch now, this is the worse I have felt during any of my PCT's!!!

Lethargic; depressed; decreased appetite. You name it. I actually couldn't physically do a thing in the gym today... was meant to be Leg day. Yeah right!!!
Opted out and went for the bench (chest and tri's). 2 sets... walked out.


It's Ouch right now. Real ****ing Ouch.

[UncleD]

The temptation to stay on steroids all the time is I guess just to great for some people. I'm 28 and still no where near cruising and blasting status. Sorry to poop on your parade Maverick.

it all depends on what he wants im going on for life im a verry large person already and intend on leaning up some and adding muscle and staying that way for as long as possable with max strenth...the guy is in london so i dont think hes gona have a hard time getting gear lol so running out isnt gona hapen unless its a $ thing, just like guys close to TJ mex and can drive across border couple times a week and shoot up in a gym and not bring anything back.. not like its gona be hard to get gear for some if he wants to take the risk its his prob he just needs to be smart and understand the heavy concequnces

[Maverick_J8]

im going on for life im a verry large person already and intend on leaning up some and adding muscle and staying that way for as long as possable with max strenth...

How old are you?

[Knockout_Power]

Im no where near your cycling experience, so my opinion isnt very noteworthy, but from your pic you are looking awesome. Even adding 5-8lbs of lean muscle is just going to look amazing at your currently low bf. Keep up what you are doing. Its working... WELL.

Wouldnt a 12 month kind of limit what you could do after that? Like a point of no return for future simple gains?

[UncleD]

How old are you?

im 27 age is just a # going on for life is a mindset/lifestyle choice but 12months straight might not be the best for u so maybe jump on a 12 weeker or longer or shorter depending on what you what and your goals, then jump on a trt doseage for a equal amount of time and stay on hgh and igf-1 all year maybe add some anavar here and there when your on trt some proviron and treat it like you were off cycle but your retention will be WAY higher then if u cycle of everything not matter what you do..heres a example

test e 1-16 750mgs ew
tren e 1-14 500-700mgs ew
anything else is up to you
8iu of hgh year round
igf-1 on/off protocol
17-30-35 weeks or so test 150-250mgs ew (your choice)
throw in some var here and there, proviron, maybe mix it up and throw in some winny or mast but make sure you dont have to use any ai or serm when on the off time so your heart can have a break both from cholesterol and strain, increased heartrate, higher BP scewd lipids from a ai and then dureing the down time throw in all your fav supplyments and treat it like your "off" you will prolly lose more bf% and gain more lean mass and doing the above or your own version of it(your choice what to do) you can have longevity to your cycleing with max gains and have somthing to look forward to...

[Maverick_J8]

Im no where near your cycling experience, so my opinion isnt very noteworthy, but from your pic you are looking awesome. Even adding 5-8lbs of lean muscle is just going to look amazing at your currently low bf. Keep up what you are doing. Its working... WELL.

Thank you.

Wouldnt a 12 month kind of limit what you could do after that? Like a point of no return for future simple gains?

I shouldn't think it would. The plan would be basically a cruise and blast schedule for 12 month.

3 month on: Moderate to Heavy/stacked cycle

3 month off: 125mg/wk - 200/wk

3 month back on: Moderate to Heavy/stacked cycle

Rinse repeat.

[Maverick_J8]

im 27 age is just a # going on for life is a mindset/lifestyle choice but 12months straight might not be the best for u so maybe jump on a 12 weeker or longer or shorter depending on what you what and your goals, then jump on a trt doseage for a equal amount of time and stay on hgh and igf-1 all year maybe add some anavar here and there when your on trt some proviron and treat it like you were off cycle but your retention will be WAY higher then if u cycle of everything not matter what you do..heres a example

test e 1-16 750mgs ew
tren e 1-14 500-700mgs ew
anything else is up to you
8iu of hgh year round
igf-1 on/off protocol
17-30-35 weeks or so test 150-250mgs ew (your choice)
throw in some var here and there, proviron, maybe mix it up and throw in some winny or mast but make sure you dont have to use any ai or serm when on the off time so your heart can have a break both from cholesterol and strain, increased heartrate, higher BP scewd lipids from a ai and then dureing the down time throw in all your fav supplyments and treat it like your "off" you will prolly lose more bf% and gain more lean mass and doing the above or your own version of it(your choice what to do) you can have longevity to your cycleing with max gains and have somthing to look forward to...

So you're suggesting pretty much one heavy cycle, then a cruise for the remainder?

And you're referring to the "down time" as the cruise, correct?