Additional supplements/ vitamins etc while on cycle ?

[Boedog]

I couldn't find any threads answering this so I was looking for reccomendations on what Vitamins or other supplements to take while cycling. I have seen guys with gym bags full of supps. and some guys tell me they dont take any.

[hankdiesel]

The guys who tell you they don't take any are most likely the ones juicing. Take a multi vitamin and what ever else you would normally take. You don't need creatine and stuff like that if that is what you're asking.

[drummerofgod87]

I take supplements regardless of whether or not I'm on cycle. I take a multi, creatine, fish oil, beta-alanine, and 3 different kinds of protein powders.

[Brown Ninja]

^^^^great advice. B12, glucosamine or something else for joints, multi vitamin, and all the protein powder you can stomach

[liftpro]

really depends on how well you eat. a good multi should be a staple in your diet year round. if you dont get enough veggies and fruits etc, you may want to supplement with more vitamins...as far a creatine and no2 i prefer to take it while im off cycle to help deal with the mass/strength i may lose...also helps with the mental aspects as well.

[drummerofgod87]

really depends on how well you eat. a good multi should be a staple in your diet year round. if you dont get enough veggies and fruits etc, you may want to supplement with more vitamins...as far a creatine and no2 i prefer to take it while im off cycle to help deal with the mass/strength i may lose...also helps with the mental aspects as well.

Creatine doesn't need to by cycled. It doesn't lose its effect on the body over time. Take it year-round and you'll see more gains on and off your cycle.

[Brown Ninja]

Interesting, I have never thought of taking while on cycle but I guess I might give it a shot

[drummerofgod87]

Cycling creatine would be like cycling vitamins. It's not like the body downregulates any activity in the body thusly reducing the body's sensitivity to creatine.

[T_Own]

brown ninja how much protein powder do you take in a day?

[assguy22]

I usually take creatine (monohidrated), whey protein & multivitamin... While on cycle, I discard creatine.

[Dobie-BOY]

I think that vit C and glocosmine chondroitan should also be used year round.

[Nicotine]

flaxseed oil
cod liver oil
***** 3/6/9

those are my 3.

[Sherman01]

Red Rice yeast
Creatine
Beta Alanine
Fish oil
Flax seed
Green tea
Green Source
L Carnitine
ON Whey
ZMA

[Dinosaur]

Cycling creatine would be like cycling vitamins. It's not like the body downregulates any activity in the body thusly reducing the body's sensitivity to creatine.

i disagree to that statement you made about creatine unless you have a real statistic that proves me wrong other wise.

[T_Own]

creatine is in the muscles no matter what, there are small amounts in the food you eat, what part of it would be able to desensitize the body to it? being absorbed and used is part of the daily routine, with or without supplementation

[Crest]

creatine powders and pills arnt good on your kidneys

[Crest]

thats why cycling is suggested (unless your running small doses)

[drummerofgod87]

i disagree to that statement you made about creatine unless you have a real statistic that proves me wrong other wise.

Acute and moderate-term creatine monohydrate supplementation does not affect creatine transporter mRNA or protein content in either young or elderly humans

Mark Tarnopolsky1 Contact Information, Gianni Parise2, Min-H Fu Surname3, Andrea Brose2, Andrew Prasad3, Oliver Speer4 and Theo Wallimann4
(1) Department of Medicine (Neurology and Rehabilitation), Department of Kinesiology, McMaster University, 1200 Main St. W., Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
(2) Department of Kinesiology, McMaster University, 1200 Main St. W., Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
(3) Department of Medicine (Neurology and Rehabilitation), McMaster University, 1200 Main St. W., Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
(4) Institute of Cell Biology (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology), Hoenggerberg, Zurich, Switzerland

Abstract Animal studies have shown that supra-physiological creatine monohydrate (Cr-mH) supplementation for 3 months reduced skeletal muscle creatine transporter (CRT) content. The doses of Cr-mH (1–2 g/kg/day) used in these studies were between 5 and 10 times those usually used in human studies, and it is unclear whether a down-regulation of CRT would occur in humans at the recommended doses of 0.1–0.2 g/kg/day. We measured CRT, and citrate synthase (CS) protein content using Western blotting before and after 2 months of Cr-mH supplementation and weight training in young men (N = 11 Cr-mH (0.125 g/kg/day); N = 8 placebo). CRT and CS were also measured before and after 4 months of Cr-mH supplementation and weight training in elderly (> 65 years) men and women (N = 14 Cr-mH (0.075 g/kg/day); N = 14 placebo). Finally, CRT mRNA was measured using competitive RT-PCR before and after 8–9 days of Cr-mH loading in young men and women (N = 14, CR-mH (mean = 0.18 g/kg/day); N = 13, PL). Total creatine content was significantly elevated after the Cr-mH supplementation period as compared to placebo in each of the studies. Neither Cr-mH supplementation, nor exercise training resulted in measurable alterations in CRT protein content and acute Cr-mH loading did not alter CRT mRNA. There were no gender differences in CRT mRNA or total creatine content in the young subjects and no gender differences in total creatine content or CRT protein content in the elderly subjects. Weight training in young men did not increase CS protein content, however, in the elderly there was a significant increase in CS protein content after exercise training (p < 0.05). These results demonstrated that Cr-mH supplementation during weight training resulted in increases in skeletal muscle total creatine without reductions in CRT protein and acute Cr-mH loading did not decrease CRT mRNA content.

I hope this was satisfying.

[drummerofgod87]

creatine powders and pills arnt good on your kidneys

Which is why we drink copious amounts of water to offset any possibility of such an occurrence.

[Dinosaur]

the study was only done for 3 months period it does not clearly talk about long term consumption of creatine . nor the affects of it.
good effort done but unsatisfactory answer.

[drummerofgod87]

True, the study did only show a 3 month period, but it still showed no slowing of the effect of creatine for at least 3 months, but in saying that, it still doesn't prove me necessarily wrong. Personally, I think that if nothing changes at all after 3 months, then it probably won't change at all. Oh well, I guess it's to each his own until someone does a long-term study over the course of at least a year.

[MercyDog]

I take a multi if diet is sub-par. Been out of the powders and pills fade for over a decade now, just use a shake PWO and a little with breakfast. Money is always an issue in this sport and if I have extra its not going to GNC