newbie needs help

**TYRONE08** · 01-11-2009, 11:14 PM

im 18 6'4 just cut down to about 190 lbs with 7% body fat after being 215 lbs with 12% body fat. i just started lifting again after cutting for months and right now im just taking a prohormone but i wanna put on alot of muscle so i can wrestle as heavyweight and ive decided to use steroids . Ive learned quite a bit fromwhat ive read on this site but i was just looking for some advice from a veteran on how to go about my first cycle and wich steroid and other products i should use.

**johnnybigguns** · 01-11-2009, 11:18 PM

You need to wait a few more years before considering the use of steroids .

**Phate** · 01-11-2009, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by TYRONE08

im 18 6'4 just cut down to about 190 lbs with 7% body fat after being 215 lbs with 12% body fat. i just started lifting again after cutting for months and right now im just taking a prohormone but i wanna put on alot of muscle so i can wrestle as heavyweight and ive decided to use steroids. Ive learned quite a bit fromwhat ive read on this site but i was just looking for some advice from a veteran on how to go about my first cycle and wich steroid and other products i should use.

at 18 you shouldn't even be taking PHs, you need to eat, eat, then eat somemore, then train, then eat, then sleep, and repeat

seriously, noone on here is going to recommend you a cycle at your age as that would be irresponsible

**TYRONE08** · 01-11-2009, 11:22 PM

no thanks both my cousins starting taking steroids when they were younger than me and now they are both college champs. ive been considering this for a while bro trust me i know what im doing.

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-11-2009, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by TYRONE08

im 18.

That's where everyone following this post is going to stop reading.

You are too young for steroids , you could possibly mess up your endocrine systems, erectile dysfunction, impotence, etc.

You know the drill, if you have read threads on here like you said, this is what everyone will tell you.

**Phate** · 01-11-2009, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by TYRONE08

no thanks both my cousins starting taking steroids when they were younger than me and now they are both college champs. ive been considering this for a while bro trust me i know what im doing.

i doubt it

how bout giving me a summary of the side effects to your body when you take steroids at our age?

**TYRONE08** · 01-11-2009, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Phate

i doubt it

how bout giving me a summary of the side effects to your body when you take steroids at our age?

no i dont know alot about what im doing exactly but i do know what i want to do is what i was trying to get across

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-11-2009, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by TYRONE08

no thanks both my cousins starting taking steroids when they were younger than me and now they are both college champs. ive been considering this for a while bro trust me i know what im doing.

What does them being college champs have to do with permantely screwing up your hormones?

How would you like to have erectile dysfunction in your 20's?

**TYRONE08** · 01-11-2009, 11:27 PM

im actually 20.

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-11-2009, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by TYRONE08

no i dont know alot about what im doing exactly but i do know what i want to do is what i was trying to get across

You don't know, listen to what your doing, YOUR A WRESTLER, what do wrestlers have to do? CUT WEIGHT/EAT A SMALL DIET TO NOT GAIN WEIGHT.

So what do you think is going to happen to your gains once season starts and you have to watch what you eat? Your gains are going to go away.

Trust me, when I was in high school I know several wrestlers who did steroids in the off-season and were big and then when wrestling season started they started to lose their gains and before you know it they were VERY LEAN almost back to their own weight. Especially in high school, wrestlers are notorious for not eating even a sufficient amount of calories during season. I knew a kid who ate ice because he couldn't gain weight for wrestling so he would eat ice to quench his hunger.

**Phate** · 01-11-2009, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by TYRONE08

im actually 20.

Originally Posted by TYRONE08

im 18

huh?

btw i doubt you are 20 unless you got held back

TYRONE08<<<< your name and the year you graduated, i'm a 2008 grad too so that's not gonna get by me

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-11-2009, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by TYRONE08

im actually 20.

Alright now your just trying to insult our intelligence, we were looking out for you and now you think we are stupid or something.

Best luck in whatever you end up doing.

Im out

**Phate** · 01-11-2009, 11:36 PM

here bro, i'm going to give you a choice, i can either

A) show you what you are going to be doing to your body so you know how much of a mistake you are going to make, then help you with diet and such so you can make use of the huge amount of natural potential you have since we are in our growing prime right now

B) let you hurt yourself since i can't stop you from searching and finding the info you want on this site

make your choice

**Jfew44** · 01-12-2009, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by TYRONE08

6'4 just cut down to about 190 lbs with 7% body fat after being 215 lbs with 12% body fat

Your age aside, you are nowhere near your potential at 6'4". I know where you're coming from bro. When I graduated high school I was 6'4" 195lbs with 8% bf. I am now a junior in college and before starting my first cycle I was a solid 230 with 8%. You need to learn how to eat or steroids won't do a thing for you. I learned that the hard way my first cycle and didn't gain anything. Instead of telling us you know everything why don't you humble yourself and do a little research.

**joiningthedarkside** · 01-12-2009, 12:08 AM

08 phate? ur 20 arnt u?

**Phate** · 01-12-2009, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by joiningthedarkside

08 phate? ur 20 arnt u?

no, i'm 19 and i repeated kindergarden twice, most of my classmates were 17-18 and i was the oldest in my class, i turned 19 in may right before we graduated

**seriousmass** · 01-12-2009, 12:12 AM

^^ well obviously not. he must be 18 or just turning 19... I really doubt Phate was held back in school. lol

**Phate** · 01-12-2009, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by seriousmass

^^ well obviously not. he must be 18 or just turning 19... I really doubt Phate was held back in school. lol

correct, but my mother had my little bro and i repeat kindergarden so that we would be older than everyone in our grade

**joiningthedarkside** · 01-12-2009, 12:18 AM

haha ight just checking didnt need ur whole life story tho!

**TTexas** · 01-12-2009, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

huh?

btw i doubt you are 20 unless you got held back

TYRONE08<<<< your name and the year you graduated, i'm a 2008 grad too so that's not gonna get by me

Phate ur 19??
Suspicious amount of knowledge for such a youngster...
Earlier I was joking about u being a fed... Now Im second guessing

Not hijacked sorry

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-12-2009, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

correct, but my mother had my little bro and i repeat kindergarden so that we would be older than everyone in our grade

Why would you want this? Im confused...

**Brown Ninja** · 01-12-2009, 12:50 AM

as if being 20 makes it any better.

**Phate** · 01-12-2009, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by TTexas

Phate ur 19??
Suspicious amount of knowledge for such a youngster...
Earlier I was joking about u being a fed... Now Im second guessing

Not hijacked sorry

so because i'm 19 and knowledgable i'm suspicious, LMAO

**TTexas** · 01-12-2009, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

so because i'm 19 and knowledgable i'm suspicious, LMAO

LOL well u did claim to be knowledgable and fail kindergarden TWICE in the same thread

**Phate** · 01-12-2009, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by TTexas

LOL well u did claim to be knowledgable and fail kindergarden TWICE in the same thread

where?

i said i repeated, not failed, big difference bro

**TTexas** · 01-12-2009, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

where?

i said i repeated, not failed, big difference bro

LOL most folks who claimed to have "repeated" a grade had failed it and were just trying to chuch it up

**Phate** · 01-12-2009, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by TTexas

LOL most folks who claimed to have "repeated" a grade had failed it and were just trying to chuch it up

you mean shush right?

anyway, i don't shush up things, i'm knowledgable on this site because i research this information, it's interesting to me as it pertains to all three of my majors and my minor as well as my lifestyle

sorry if i got defensive but i get tired of giving people advice only to have them say "i don't take advice from people younger than me" when they learn my age, does my age make my advice wrong or something, should i wait till i'm 25 then say the same thing and it'll be true?

anyway, sorry if i went on rant, just a major sore spot for me

**TTexas** · 01-12-2009, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by Phate

you mean shush right?

anyway, i don't shush up things, i'm knowledgable on this site because i research this information, it's interesting to me as it pertains to all three of my majors and my minor as well as my lifestyle

sorry if i got defensive but i get tired of giving people advice only to have them say "i don't take advice from people younger than me" when they learn my age, does my age make my advice wrong or something, should i wait till i'm 25 then say the same thing and it'll be true?

anyway, sorry if i went on rant, just a major sore spot for me

Its OK ill just kick ur ass later!
No I meant "church" it up... I thought that being from tx u might know some good trailer-park slang!
U have given me good advice in the past so I take ur comments serious despite ur lack of kindergarden skillz lol
What area u from brah?

**Phate** · 01-12-2009, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by TTexas

Its OK ill just kick ur ass later!
No I meant "church" it up... I thought that being from tx u might know some good trailer-park slang!
U have given me good advice in the past so I take ur comments serious despite ur lack of kindergarden skillz lol
What area u from brah?

i've never heard church it up before, lol

and like i said, my bad on the rant

i don't even know how to describe my area, i live in a town about an hour from abilene

you're from houston area right?