whats to use?

**macgrappler** · 01-11-2009, 11:15 PM

im looking for something that will assist in mild fat loss but at the sametime build muscle and power. i checked into halo but been unsuccessful in getting it. what else is there out there.

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-11-2009, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by macgrappler

im looking for something that will assist in mild fat loss but at the sametime build muscle and power. i checked into halo but been unsuccessful in getting it. what else is there out there.

Well what can you get and then we can tell you which one of those is best for your goals...

**johnnybigguns** · 01-11-2009, 11:19 PM

Have you used at all before

**Phate** · 01-11-2009, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by macgrappler

im looking for something that will assist in mild fat loss but at the sametime build muscle and power. i checked into halo but been unsuccessful in getting it. what else is there out there.

if that's you in your photo then you don't need steroids yet, you need to train and get a better base

i know you wrestle, but still you need to give it time

stats?
age
weight
height
bf%
training exp(lifting not wrestling)
steroid exp?

**macgrappler** · 01-12-2009, 12:25 AM

thats an old photo from last christmas, i needa get some pics with my shirt off. im 19, 175lbs, 6ft. about 12 to 15 percent bf. the only lifting experience i got is that of what are football coach put us threw which is the same exact weight lifting program they put the OU football team on. i have no steroid experience.

**breakbones** · 01-12-2009, 12:47 AM

To young for steroids , you should hold off and just eat/proper diet! At your age, your body is producing a great amount of test, use that as it's free and coast no money

**Brown Ninja** · 01-12-2009, 12:58 AM

19 is to young bro. You need a stronger lifting base as well

**Phate** · 01-12-2009, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by macgrappler

thats an old photo from last christmas, i needa get some pics with my shirt off. im 19, 175lbs, 6ft. about 12 to 15 percent bf. the only lifting experience i got is that of what are football coach put us threw which is the same exact weight lifting program they put the OU football team on. i have no steroid experience.

not a good idea bro, for several reasons

especially if you haven't been lifting for at least a couple years as your tendons aren't going to used to the strain and the increase in strength could cause you to injury or even tear them, which would completely stop any wrestling for a long time

**MMArmour** · 01-12-2009, 12:22 PM

^^^ true story. ull be throwing on poundage like no ones business and ur tendons wouldnt have the ability to hang with your new found power. Basically...youll tear yourself to pieces.

**macgrappler** · 01-13-2009, 01:24 AM

just say i was going to start using though. say i used halo or hgh. maybe neither and did deca instead.

**peachfuzz** · 01-13-2009, 01:26 AM

you have alot to learn my friend.

***RAGE*** · 01-13-2009, 01:30 AM

Dude read learn then after that make a plan and go from there...good luck

**Kale** · 01-13-2009, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by macgrappler

just say i was going to start using though. say i used halo or hgh. maybe neither and did deca instead.

Your new to this and have no experience and you are here to learn. So forget the Deca and HGH, thats just ridiculous. As already stated you are too young. Now the smartest thing you can do is educate your self with some research so start reading this http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=368656 it will answer any question you have, the decision to juice is then yours, but I warn you if you do this now you will be making a long term mistake.

**legobricks** · 01-13-2009, 01:40 AM

No steorids, and no peptides. Food, lots of it and a proper diet to help the BF% stay down and gain lean muscle. Also to help with strength and explosiveness a pre workout supplement would help greatly.

You are too young and need a better base to work off of, and without a proper diet to aid your muscles in growth you will go nowhere. Steroids aint magic beans.