Newbie lookin for some help

[jers92rs]

Hey guys. Bare with me as I am new to all of this this. Probably did all of this backwards but, here I am. Recieved my order of PGH, Clen, D Anabol, and Deca 200. As my research continues I am getting more and more confused. Was this a good stack? Whats a good dosage? What else do I need or should have on hand to combat side effects. Anti estrogen when the cycle ends? They recommend a 4 week cycle with 4 weeks off, is this right? Just looking for some input. Looking to cut bf, and bulk. Can't seem to cut the bf, clen seemed a good option. I have always gotten stronger but never any bulk. Help in anyway is appreciated.

6ft 1in
208lb
28 years old
24% bf (high I know, all in stomach, thin everywhere else)
W/o for about 2yrs consistently, on and off b4 that.
Fairly high protein diet, steppin it up in a big way.

[D7M]

Most people will tell you off the bat that your BF is too high to begin a cycle, and that your diet should be in check first.

But, you're in the right place for good advice.

what's your diet look like?

[Big]

Welcome.
Yes, your diet is the problem. With proper diet and training you should be able to get down to 15% no problem.

[chuckt12345]

Wait are these products the stuff you bought from this site? PGH is just a fake product. Do you have real deca and abol

[redz]

Recieved my order of PGH, Clen, D Anabol, and Deca 200

Another victim, those arent steroids!

[jers92rs]

Protien bar before morning workout, Myoplex 42g shake after, 4 chicken breasts plus a few fruits for lunch, Protien bar between lunch and dinner, usually 4 hours between lunch n dinner, 1/2 pork loin, 4 chicken, or beef dinner, with veg and rice. After dinner usually lots of fruit, just started a shake after dinner. is 1-1.5grams of protien per lb good? So 208lbs, 208g-312g. Probably need more than that.

[chuckt12345]

Another victim, those arent steroids!

Thought so,, id be pissed.

[jers92rs]

This is awesome guys, this is exactly what I need to hear.

[jers92rs]

Startin to think the order goes back? Can you recommend specifics to bulk, and cut bf? Or is diet going to be my key in this situation?

[Big]

diet is the key for now, while tweaking the diet stick around and learn about other things as well. I do appreciate your positive attitude, many new members get upset when we don't say what they want to hear, but we have your best interest at heart. keep an open mind and we can help you meet your goals.

[redz]

Diet and cardio are always the key for cutting. Those products are probably none-refundable. Steroids could lead to alot of complications cycling with high bf%

[jers92rs]

all you guys that use these products are the experts, i am here with an open mind to learn. Thanks for not beating me up to bad Would any of the products mentioned help in anyway? clen to burn bf?

[chuckt12345]

all you guys that use these products are the experts, i am here with an open mind to learn. Thanks for not beating me up to bad Would any of the products mentioned help in anyway? clen to burn bf?

The clen might actually be legit because its a diffrent category but im not sure. Someone else may know ???

[redz]

Real Clen does help but you have something else. Its best to get going naturally and use things like clen to get rid of the last stuborn fat.

[jers92rs]

I wish i could say where i got the products from to see if they are real or not. If real I would just hold on to them until I cut bf. Then start a cycle, but if they aren't even real steroids, then hope they have a return policy.

[chuckt12345]

I wish i could say where i got the products from to see if they are real or not. If real I would just hold on to them until I cut bf. Then start a cycle, but if they aren't even real steroids, then hope they have a return policy.

it wasnt from the above banner? Pretty sure you wont be returning them anywhere.

[redz]

They are not legit I can guarantee it deca doesnt come in pill form,oral growth hormone doesnt exist.

[jers92rs]

Damn them

[jers92rs]

it was from an above banner, actually the banner has all the products on it.

[MMArmour]

ouccchhhhhhhhh!

[jbm]

diet is the key for now, while tweaking the diet stick around and learn about other things as well. I do appreciate your positive attitude, many new members get upset when we don't say what they want to hear, but we have your best interest at heart. keep an open mind and we can help you meet your goals.

Taking your advice bro! I think as of now I'll try my best to gain naturally and to lower my bf% before juicing!
thanks!