dbol and ephdrine

[jay007]

hey fellas,
the question that i have is i'm doing a dbol 50mg and sus 325mg cycle. i'm looking to run some ephdrine in the cycle to trim out the excess fat. any recomendation how i should run it?

wk 1-8 Dbol 50mg ED
wk 1-16 Sus 325mg 2xwk
wk 20-25 PCT(HCG, Nov, Aroma)

[redz]

-Dbol and ephedrine have no business being in the same sentence.
-8 weeks of dbol at 50mg is a long time
-sustanon should be shot atleast eod
-HCG should not be in pct but in the weeks leading into pct
-PCT should start less than 4 weeks after cycle ends.

[jay007]

i can cut the dbal to 6 weeks thats no biggie. the sus eod isn't going to happen i gan go every 3 days with that. i can do the hcg in the 2 weeks before PCT. i just followed the PCT thresd on the site and thats what they had. so the pct should i do it while still taking the test or wait till i'm off the test?
also why no ephedrine and dbol in the same cycle?

[Big]

pct would start 21 days after last shot of sust.

[jay007]

ok thanks on the pct. when should i start the HCG. also how could i incorporate the ephedrine. i want to cut the fat.

[Reed]

You need to re think your goals then. Either bulk or cut. Either a calorie surplus and or calorie deficit. Only a very limited few have the ability to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. Your diet as to be so on point and will be the sole determining factor in achieving your goals.

[jay007]

got ya. just to recap. when should i start the HCG? and i keep reseracing and i am getting mixed reviews. some say Sus ED, EOD E3days and some say 2xwk? can i get away with 2xwk?

[Reed]

I'd up the dose to 500mg first off. Go shorter if you got to

You CAN get away with 2x a week but it will render the short esters useless. I'd say eod minimum. I'd do ed personally. People that advocate the 2x a week protocol base it off them still having results but science will tell you its needs to be more frequent. I don't think you need HCG as this cycle is not THAT suppressive (i.e. cycles w/ a 19nor). But if you want start it the last week of your cycle with your Sus and run some nolva along side till the long ester clears then drop it and start your PCT. But I'd save it for next time

[jay007]

the sus im running at 650mgs a week. to be on the safe side i'm going with the hcg last week before sus ends. the pct will be nova and aroma is that good and it will start 21 days after last sus inj. is there any way to incorporte ephedrine in the cycle?

[jay007]

does the hcg and pct look correct. any word on the ephdrine?

[Crest]

-Dbol and ephedrine have no business being in the same sentence.
-8 weeks of dbol at 50mg is a long time
-sustanon should be shot atleast eod
-HCG should not be in pct but in the weeks leading into pct
-PCT should start less than 4 weeks after cycle ends.

yer man, drop it down to 30mg

[Noles12]

word on the ephedrine is just drop it. From the looks of it you are trying to get bigger. So you wanna bulk and ephedrine does not make you bulk. You need to decide which is better right now bulking or cutting

[godkilla]

**** ephedrine. do some cardio.