Just asking for some advice for various bulk cycles that gave you very good gains without 19nors. I've done maybe around 7-8 cycles now and for a few reasons I am wanting to stay away from 19nors but I have always usually had them in my cycles because of how well they work and i don't know what I could run in a bulk without them and without using a very high amount of various other compounds like doing something like 1,500mg of test a week and etc.