how much does adex hinder gains

[Rugbyboy8]

I read a few posts etc.. where people said that they wouldn;t run a cycle without adex but then other people saying they would only keep it on hand to stop bloat and gyno???

From experience or links to research could people give there views on adex on the following cycle and also what they feel it does for them, keep the bloat down and not hinder gains, keep the bloat down and hinder gains slightly or really haold them back gains wise say 50% or something???

Cycle is - i'm 1 week in.

1 - 5 40mgs dbol
1 - 12 500mg test e
1 - 14 .5 adex eod (now not too sure about this now)
14 - 18 clomid and nolva pct

Cheers

[cellar]

I'm just going to share with you an experience that I had in the past with AI. I can't say if you should or should not use it. I'm also trying to figure out if using it is worth the sides.


So previously, I have been known to be sensitive to gyno. I encountered gyno on a PH(prohormone)

Anyhow my first run of epistane after 2 weeks I saw about 6 pounds. (first cycle)
I cut it short cause I caught some sort of flu and I didn't want to make it worse.

I got gyno in those two weeks when i started PCT with torem.

Next cycle, I figured I was prone to gyno. This time I was more prepared to run epistane/havoc. I bought letrozole because it was supposed to be more bang for your buck. (you use less and you suppress estrogen making for less gyno right? yeah that's what I figured at first)

Anyhow I threw in letrozole in the end of week 2. I ran the stuff for about 5 weeks. 40mg being the sweet spot and most people see 10 pounds. (I definitely expected it since my receptors were "fresh")

Anyhow as soon as I started the letro. Which I was doing fairly high (and stupidly) at 1.25mg E3D.

I stopped seeing gains as soon as I threw it in. 3 weeks not a single pound

So now This time im running a cycle just like yours. Dbol 1-5 with 30mg and test C 1-12 500mg.

I bought Adex because theres no way in hell ill be using letro ever agian.

(It suppressed the hell out of me and dropped my libido down to nothing even on cycle)

So after that run, I have been sorta scared to run adex or any AI even though im sensitive to gyno.

I would say gyno comes up before any pain occurs so its very hard to predict when its going to come on.

They say you can use nolva to block estrogen binding but if you dont feel any nipple soreness or pain, how would you know when to use it?

Ive been thinking about using nolva 10mg on cycle ED to see if that will help control the gyno without killing my gains.

I don't know about you but I figured I could try .25 adex ED and when gyno symptoms occur bump it up, or do nolva 10mg everyday. Im sorta stuck on what to do as well as you.

[Flex-Appeal]

^ that's a long ass post

[cellar]

^ that's a long ass post

haha.

I think im going the nolva route and if i notice anything, ill be hitting adex. I even have letro on hand to help.

[jimmyinkedup]

so start it at .25 eod and bump it up if needed ..ive always errored on thew saide of caution with estrogen management and have made excellent gains