New and need help

[Jordanjay31]

I am wanting to cut up for summer and i have been pointed in the direction of winstrol. i read that i should take testosterone with it. What exactly should i order and take over a six week period {sigh} Read the rules before you post again.
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[RuhlFreak55]

thank you god at least you figured out that you need test with it......

HOWEVER, you can't look for sources on here.....you can source check any you may already have once you've got enough posts/days of membership....good luck

[nyjetsfan86]

haha ruhl we were just talking about this on the other thread.....jordan are you talking about winstrol depot or tabs and if you take test you are gonna need more than 6 weeks

[RuhlFreak55]

haha ruhl we were just talking about this on the other thread.....jordan are you talking about winstrol depot or tabs and if you take test you are gonna need more than 6 weeks

lol i know, how ironic

[Jordanjay31]

Bro i dont know. I am new to this shit thats why im asking you guys. I'm talking about winstrol pill form. i know that shootin it in your ass is faster and more direct and takes out liver work and all that shit. but whatever. I'm just trying to get one form or another. And i know i need more than six weeks to get to where i want to be, but i read that i should take it 6 weeks then take 6 weekss off. Plus, i'm only trying to lose like 25 pounds, i can do that in 8 weeks with EXTREME dieting and cardio. But screw that! to much work. OH yea, JETSFAN, why did you say if i take TEST i will need more time? does test make the fat loss slow down or what?

[Zino]

Bro i dont know. I am new to this shit thats why im asking you guys. I'm talking about winstrol pill form. i know that shootin it in your ass is faster and more direct and takes out liver work and all that shit. but whatever. I'm just trying to get one form or another. And i know i need more than six weeks to get to where i want to be, but i read that i should take it 6 weeks then take 6 weekss off. Plus, i'm only trying to lose like 25 pounds, i can do that in 8 weeks with EXTREME dieting and cardio. But screw that! to much work. OH yea, JETSFAN, why did you say if i take TEST i will need more time? does test make the fat loss slow down or what?

you can only lose about 8 lbs of fat everymonth, any more will most likely be only muscle. your body can only lipolyse (tm. ) so much and you have to remember it wont be linear (it gets harder the lower your bf gets) ...

Test takes time to build up in your body and you usually wont start feeling anything for about a month if you take along ester liek test enanthenate so that would only give you about 2 weeks until you run out, not nearly enough time.

[Jordanjay31]

Well, I KNOW that i can lose 2 to 2 1/2 pounds of fat a week. Wich is, 16-24 pounds over an 8 week span. That is FAT only. 3500 calories is 1 pound of fat. I probably eat atleast 4000 calories a day.( junk food, fried food, healthy food, ALL FOOD!) Just by cutting junk food ALONE i would be down to about 3000 calories a day. That is 7,000 calories LESS over a week span, wich is the equivalent to 2 pounds. And thats WITHOUT cardio. Throw that cardio in there with the diet, and that will bring me to losing 2 and a half pounds to 3 pounds a week. EASILY!(and yes, you want to lose NO MORE than 3 lbs. a week because thats when you start to break down muscle...Depending on your body,everyone is different) That will put me at losing ATLEAST 10 to 12 pounds of fat a month. Again, 12 lbs. EASILY! SO ZINO, YOUR STATEMENT IS FALSE.

[Bossman]

you can only lose about 8 lbs of fat everymonth, any more will most likely be only muscle. your body can only lipolyse (tm. ) so much and you have to remember it wont be linear (it gets harder the lower your bf gets) ...

Test takes time to build up in your body and you usually wont start feeling anything for about a month if you take along ester liek test enanthenate so that would only give you about 2 weeks until you run out, not nearly enough time.

Well stated.

He said if you lose more the 8 lbs a month you will start to lose muscle, which is true. Even more so if you're not on AAS. Ideally you don't want to lose more then 1-1/2 lbs per week if you're not on AAS, unless muscle retention is something that doesn't matter to you.

You should not be taking AAS. You don't have the mentality for it. Not even close.

[Jordanjay31]

Bro listen, when i said i was new i was talking about steroids in itself. I'm not an idiot and been around this shit a while. YOU ARE WRONG about muscle retention at 1 pound a week. are you a ****in idiot. My boy lost dam near thirty pounds in UNDER 8 weeks, and still put 345 up on the bench. HE GOT NO WEAKER! SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES! Your dillusional. well state that. I mean c'mon, i come hear to get advice from ppl that know something. STR8 UP, you guys are idots. Muscle retention at 1 to 1 1/2 pounds a week. BRO! Why the **** do you think there called STEROIDS! Cuz they do super human shit and give you super human strength. THEY MAKE MONSTERS! Why do you think they are illegal?

[mxer_kx]

Lmao super human shit that gives super human strength so all ur missing is your tights and ur ready to save the world

[Bossman]

Bro listen, when i said i was new i was talking about steroids in itself. I'm not an idiot and been around this shit a while. YOU ARE WRONG about muscle retention at 1 pound a week. are you a ****in idiot. My boy lost dam near thirty pounds in UNDER 8 weeks, and still put 345 up on the bench. HE GOT NO WEAKER! SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES! Your dillusional. well state that. I mean c'mon, i come hear to get advice from ppl that know something. STR8 UP, you guys are idots. Muscle retention at 1 to 1 1/2 pounds a week. BRO! Why the **** do you think there called STEROIDS! Cuz they do super human shit and give you super human strength. THEY MAKE MONSTERS! Why do you think they are illegal?

Hey bro, I speak from experience. You're obviously speaking out of your a$$.

[Kale]

Bro listen, when i said i was new i was talking about steroids in itself. I'm not an idiot and been around this shit a while. YOU ARE WRONG about muscle retention at 1 pound a week. are you a ****in idiot. My boy lost dam near thirty pounds in UNDER 8 weeks, and still put 345 up on the bench. HE GOT NO WEAKER! SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES! Your dillusional. well state that. I mean c'mon, i come hear to get advice from ppl that know something. STR8 UP, you guys are idots. Muscle retention at 1 to 1 1/2 pounds a week. BRO! Why the **** do you think there called STEROIDS! Cuz they do super human shit and give you super human strength. THEY MAKE MONSTERS! Why do you think they are illegal?

Are you fvcking serious ?, you have no clue what you are talking about !!

[Matt]

Bro listen, when i said i was new i was talking about steroids in itself. I'm not an idiot and been around this shit a while. YOU ARE WRONG about muscle retention at 1 pound a week. are you a ****in idiot. My boy lost dam near thirty pounds in UNDER 8 weeks, and still put 345 up on the bench. HE GOT NO WEAKER! SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES! Your dillusional. well state that. I mean c'mon, i come hear to get advice from ppl that know something. STR8 UP, you guys are idots. Muscle retention at 1 to 1 1/2 pounds a week. BRO! Why the **** do you think there called STEROIDS! Cuz they do super human shit and give you super human strength. THEY MAKE MONSTERS! Why do you think they are illegal?

Lmao, its going to one of those days, i can just feel it....

[MMArmour]

Hey Jordan brah,
WE dont need YOU to tell US about what steroids do. We have used them. You are some PUNK coming to us for advice. Which you now, after your little outburst, will likely not get.

Why do I think they are illegal?
Quite honestly, little twit, ****tard, ass clowns like YOU, son. Super human shit? Only shit I see is what is readily spewing out of your mouth.

Wanna know what you should take?
about a 4ml injection of SHUT THE **** UP.

[FireGuy]

Damn Armour, I am not into flaming newbies but that 4ml of shut the fvck up was hilarious!

[MMArmour]

Thanks. . I really dont wanna get the reputation for just going around flaming everyone. I really enjoy this site and the knowledge and people involved in it (even the newbs). Not too long ago i was steroid stupid. Its one thing to ask a stupid question. Another thing to start running your mouth and telling members what is true and not true of their own personal experience. This kid needs his ass beat, most rickytick.

[Jfew44]

Bro listen, when i said i was new i was talking about steroids in itself. I'm not an idiot and been around this shit a while. YOU ARE WRONG about muscle retention at 1 pound a week. are you a ****in idiot. My boy lost dam near thirty pounds in UNDER 8 weeks, and still put 345 up on the bench. HE GOT NO WEAKER! SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES! Your dillusional. well state that. I mean c'mon, i come hear to get advice from ppl that know something. STR8 UP, you guys are idots. Muscle retention at 1 to 1 1/2 pounds a week. BRO! Why the **** do you think there called STEROIDS! Cuz they do super human shit and give you super human strength. THEY MAKE MONSTERS! Why do you think they are illegal?

Because people like you abuse them when you don't know what you're talking about. Why don't you just do what your boy did and let us know how that goes.

[Jordanjay31]

Look dudes. Im not going to talk about beating ppl up over the internet. Be serious! You fagget mother ****ers better go read some shit about muscle retention. My ENTIRE argument was about muscle retention after losing 1 pound of fat a week. I dont give a **** whos dick you guys have swung from and got your info from. I would bet money that 90 percent of you guys talk from HEAR SAY and havent picked up ONE book. Like i said, i Will lose 20-25 lbs in 8 weeks, and i will still smash 365. i'm 240 lbs now and do it, ill do it when i'm 215! Other than that, im done with this. Oh yea, i have done this before so i guess you could say... "I'm speaking from experience"

[seriousmass]

Look dudes. Im not going to talk about beating ppl up over the internet. Be serious! You fagget mother ****ers better go read some shit about muscle retention. My ENTIRE argument was about muscle retention after losing 1 pound of fat a week. I dont give a **** whos dick you guys have swung from and got your info from. I would bet money that 90 percent of you guys talk from HEAR SAY and havent picked up ONE book. Like i said, i Will lose 20-25 lbs in 8 weeks, and i will still smash 365. i'm 240 lbs now and do it, ill do it when i'm 215! Other than that, im done with this. Oh yea, i have done this before so i guess you could say... "I'm speaking from experience"

hahahahahhahahahahaha. ignorance.

wear a garbage-bag suit to the gym every day!!! it'll help you shed those pounds!!!

[MMArmour]

eat shit.