Another First Cycle Post

[shabby]

Hi there,

Alright so I've decided to give steroids a go as well, after a long consideration. I've read around a lot and written down what I've found and I've almost decided what cycle to do, but I still have some questions that I haven't managed to figure out completely.

First off, im 20 years old, been training with weights for around 4 years (tough training for the last 2 years, as I was still growing), with a lot of ice hockey before that. I'm a certified training instructor, and I should have my diet in check. I'm 1.84m (6' 1/2"), and weigh in around 95 kg (209 pounds). The cycle I've chosen is one the very first newbie cycle from this site.

400 mg Testosterone Enanthate / week (200 mg / 3.5 days) for 12 weeks
20 mg Dianabol / once a week for the first 5 weeks

Then as Post Cycle Therapy (starting ~14 days after last injection):

Week 1-2: 40 mg Nolvadex daily
Week 3-4 (or up to 5): 20 mg Nolvadex daily

I will also have Nolvadex at hand to use for any Gyno during the cycle.

Questions:
1. Should i use Proviron along with Nolvadex in PCT (50mg Proviron + 20 mg Nolvadex/daily, instead of what I have now)?
2. Should I use Human Chorionic gonadotrophin in PCT? I've seen a lot of discussion surrounding this. What do you think regarding these steroids and this cycle - and if yes, what dosage?
3. I do worry a bit about hairloss, and as such I've had a look at Finasteride and Dutesteride, but I am in general quite blank. Does anyone have any personal experience using these or other drugs? Any info would be great.
4. Lastly, would you recommend using Aromatase Inhibitors during the cycle (Like Arimidex at 0.5 mg/day). From what I've gathered it shouldn't be necessary at such testosterone dosages.

Do post if you have any other suggestions or see something wrong!
Thanks in advance.

EDIT:
New Cycle:

500 mg testo / week (250 mg every 3.5 days) for 12 weeks.
30 mg dbol / week for 5 weeks <- will check availability.
250 iu HCG every 3.5 days for 10 weeks, 500iu twice a week for 2 weeks.

PCT:
40 mg Nolvadex/day for week 13-14, 20 mg for week 15-16.
30 mg Aromasin or Proviron/day week 13-16.

If Gyno occurs: 20 mg Nolvadex / day until solved.
If hair loss occurs: I'll have Nizoral Shampoo at hand + Rogaine.

[Matt]

Being a training instructor you will realise that at 20 your natural test levels will be high? Why would you want to mess with that?

[shabby]

Being a training instructor you will realise that at 20 your natural test levels will be high? Why would you want to mess with that?

I guess I feel that my natural testosterone levels doesn't quite cut it. They're high compared to other stages in life, but they shouldnt be anything compared to the levels you get while on a cycle. I've stagnated a bit during the last 6-9 months, despite changes in my workout and diet plans. So I've decided to give myself a boost to get back on track. Any thoughts on the cycle in particular?

[honda450]

Run the Test @ 500mg/week.
Aromasin /arimidex could be useful while on cycle to control estrogen levels..
Arimidex @ .25 mg/day works good

[seriousmass]

^^ I won't lecture you on being young. lol, I'm 20 as well. I'd stick with just a Test - E cycle @ 500mg per week, divided into two injections. I wouldn't use the D-bol. But it's your choice (d-bol can also increase the risk of hair lose / early onset balding) - incase you didn't realize that.

Nevertheless, if you really want to run the d-bol for the kickstart then I'd bump the dosage up to at least 30mg per day. 20 isn't really anything...

Anyways, you should check out these threads, might give you some ideas on how to run the cycle:

Test-Enanthate Log

Test Enth
Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Testosterone Enanthate

Dianabol
Anabolic Review Steroid Profile: Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)

[rabidsquirrel]

400 is probably good but id go with 500 as well. really would depend on how gear was doses for me. u can keep adex on hand incase u strat getting gyno symtons. u could add Aromasin to ur pct. test has never givin me any hair lose problems only gear that does that to me is tren .

[rabidsquirrel]

25mg dbol first time i used it blow me what pretty nicely. i gained 15 pounds in about 4 weeks. alot of bloat though

[shabby]

@ Honda450: Alright. 400 mg's not enough as my very first cycle? I guess if I go 500 mg, i'll cut out the Dbol .

@ seriousmass: Thanks for good info, I've read the links. I haven't decided for sure if I go with Dbol yet, so I guess it stands between 400 mg test+30 mg dbol, or just 500 mg test. Do you have any good sources on Dbol studies involving hair loss?

@rabidsquirrel: Do you think I should use Aromasin instead of Proviron with my Nolvadex ? 25 mg Aromasin/day + Nolvadex at my rates, that is. Good suggestion - I will keep some Arimidex at hand to use at 0.5/day with my nolvadex if I notice any gyno, but hopefully I'll get through the cycle without using them.

[seriousmass]

If you are prone the MPB (male pattern baldness) you will loss your hair anyway, so why don't you look to other options like lessening fall out with Finasteride, rogaine, nizoral shampoo, and saw palmetto. If that does not make you happy then your next option would be shave it...

Things to get: spiro, nizoral 2%, polysorbate 80

Regarding the article: no I don't have an article on it. sorry.

good luck with the cycle, hope that helps

[seriousmass]

Also, I don't know what you're talking about regarding cutting out the D-bol if you run 400mg each week verus 500mg. The results are going to be very similar from the test (because thats such a small difference). Just run the d-bol if you've got it. Your face will blow up like a ballon.. but whatever.. just water retention..

[rabidsquirrel]

yeah always good to have them on hand. ive done alot of cycles now and have olny gotten symtoms of gyno twice. no bad but my nips got sore to touch and one time i also had a hard little lump behind my nipple. i took my adex for a week or some both times and it went away both times. nolv. and aromasin are pletty in my opinon for this cycle. and i dont know ur goals but dbol is one of my favorite kickstarters. feels nice to start to see results in first week or so. and again never giving me hair problem personaly

[rabidsquirrel]

If you are prone the MPB (male pattern baldness) you will loss your hair anyway, so why don't you look to other options like lessening fall out with Finasteride, rogaine, nizoral shampoo, and saw palmetto. If that does not make you happy then your next option would be shave it...

Things to get: spiro, nizoral 2%, polysorbate 80

Regarding the article: no I don't have an article on it. sorry.

good luck with the cycle, hope that helps

when i do have problems with hair falling out i use rogaine and it helps alot.

[shabby]

Hehe, alright. I'll keep researching the Dbol part of it then. Thanks for the MPB suggestions. Hoping I can avoid it, the men on my mom's side of the family all have/had hair their entire lives.

Editing my initial post as we go, to add the changes.

[shabby]

Bump for some new edits. Have a look!