I could use a little advice

[jamminJohn]

I am looking for a little advice on an upcoming cycle that I am trying to put together. First, let me give you a little background info so that you know where I'm coming from. I'm 38 years old and have been training for 25+ years. I never did a cycle until I was 30 years old and have done about 7 or 8 cycles since them. I have mostly done bulking cycles with various forms of test, d-bol, anadrol, deca and my home brewed fina (not all at the same time, of course). I went from 165 lbs at age 30 to as much as 225 lbs a year ago. While a good part of the weight I put on was muscle, I did accumulate some fat along with it. I have cleaned up my diet and added 45 minutes of cardio 3x/wk and am currently a pretty lean 200 lbs. I haven't done a cycle for about 1 1/2 years, but am ready to do one now. I am already pretty big and am not trying to get much bigger. I really just want to add a little lean muscle mass and harden up the mass I already have. I currently have on hand 50 amps of omnadren, 20 mls of primobolan(200mg/ml), 10 mls of deca(250mg/ml) and 100 winny 10mg tabs. I have a pretty good source for gear and can get just about anything I want. I like doing longer cycles(14-16 weeks) with at least 6 months between cycles. I was thinking of starting off my cycle with test and deca (probably 500 mg/wk of test and 250 mg/deca) and then finishing it off with the winny and primobolan (probably 400mg/wk of primo and 30mg/day of winny). Would it be a good idea to do this all in one cycle, or would it be better to run the test and deca for ten weeks, taking a couple months off and then running another cycle with the primo and winny? If I did this, would I need to run test with the winny and primo? My guess is that I would, but I'm not really sure, as I have no experience with primo or winny. Does anybody have any opinions or advice on how I might best utilize the gear that I currently have or any suggestions on anything else that I might want to add to this? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

[IAMCDN]

it's always a good idea to run test as a base, even as low as 150mgs/week. I would stick with the test/deca cycle and run the winny at the tail end. what do you have for pct?

[lord henry]

primo needs to be run 12 weeks + at 600mgs ew for any sort of gains.

go with

test,deca,winny

[jamminJohn]

I've always used clomid for pct. It seems to work fine for me. I have plenty of that on hand.

[auslifta]

Test, maestron, winny.
maybe something like this;
1-14 test prop 100mg a day
maestron 100mg EOD/ 14 weeks
8-14 winny
followed by PCT

[jamminJohn]

primo needs to be run 12 weeks + at 600mgs ew for any sort of gains.

go with

test,deca,winny

I can get more primo. That's not a problem. You don't think that would be a good addition to the cycle? What would you recommend running with the primo?

[Dobie-BOY]

You don't have enough deca and it won't do anything if u don't run it for at least 10 weeks +.same with the primo.

[jamminJohn]

Test, maestron, winny.
maybe something like this;
1-14 test prop 100mg a day
maestron 100mg EOD/ 14 weeks
8-14 winny
followed by PCT

You think the masteron would be better than the primo for cutting? I picked up the primo because in the profile it says that it is good for cutting up and burning fat.

[jamminJohn]

You don't have enough deca and it won't do anything if u don't run it for at least 10 weeks +.same with the primo.

Why do you say not enough deca? I have enough to run 250mg/week for ten weeks. No need to run any more than that.

[Dobie-BOY]

Why do you say not enough deca? I have enough to run 250mg/week for ten weeks. No need to run any more than that.

because 250 mg a week is a minimum dose and 10 - 12 weeks is the minimum time on for any benefits. If you are gonna use a minimum dose I personally would not use the minimum time on. I just dont want the minimum benefits of anything. If you are gonna use it get more than the minimum benefit.. Just my opinion though. Next time get NPP instead of deca.

[jamminJohn]

because 250 mg a week is a minimum dose and 10 - 12 weeks is the minimum time on for any benefits. If you are gonna use a minimum dose I personally would not use the minimum time on. I just dont want the minimum benefits of anything. If you are gonna use it get more than the minimum benefit.. Just my opinion though. Next time get NPP instead of deca.

That makes good sense. I think I'll get another bottle of Deca. I don't like doing more than 250 mg/wk, but I can run it for another 4-6 weeks.