d-ball tablets...noob help.

[panther06]

A friend of mine began the cycle then quickly stopped, theres approximately 30 tablets left(25mg). Are they worth taking? Also have a bottle of winstrol(new, oil base), from what I've researched you definately shouldnt take them together? Could I take whats left of the dball tablets then follow it with the winstrol?

I began taking the pills already, 3 days so far and have been taking novadex xt every night as well. Along with a solid liver support, tons of water, animal pack(multi-vitamin as you all know) which contains milk thistle and everything I've read you should take when using any sort of anabolic.

Just a bunch of newb questions....have been looking all over the net and this just seems like the best place to get good info. I've been training/dieting for nearly 2 years now and just want a little boost, hopefully you guys can help me out. ANY advice you guys can give I'd greatly appreciate it.... thanks!

[Mammon]

well dbol only cycles are not the best option.. but some do it... so what are you doing 25mg a day for a month?

[honda450]

No one will recommend Dbol only as a cycle. 30 pills will get you nowhere but adding some water and maybe shutting your body down. Losing sex drive and feeling shitty..

Read the stickies in this forum and use the search button and you will have lots of knowledge in no time.

An extra boost would be...
Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week for 12 weeks. Shoot Mon/Thurs.

Post Cycle Therapy (PCT)
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/20/20

[rich1234]

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[panther06]

Age
weight
height
bf%
years training
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Almost 21
5'11
195 lb's
20% b.f.(shoulder/elbow surgery put me down for 6 months was 10%)
2 years serious... have put on nearly 24lb's of muscle and became capable of controlling my body fat and weight very well, 3 years prior but lacked any knowledge. My diet is solid as can be depending on the months the recent injuries though have put me WAY out of the norm, but I would like to try out something.... so just need to be pointed in the right direction.
Bench- 315x2
Squat- 250x1(motorcycle accident which also caused the above lol...)
Arms-need improvement

My goals are the obvious, gain strength, mass, and the usual greater muscle tone. I would like to be a SOLID 195-200, I'm VERY small looking.... but my strength people say is very very unexpected, I want that to change.

One thing that is an issue is I have a pretty rare but now not so uncommon condition of a disease/disorder called celiac, so I have no enzyme to digest gleuton(wheat/breads etc etc etc.... only corn and rice). So ALOT of typical supplements I can't use, and I HAVE to read every label on 85% of what I eat. No proccessed can foods or anything breaded, fried etc.....

I'll continue researching from the site and wont touch a damn thing until I know more about what I'm putting into my body.... not just taking a friends word for it. Thankyou guys very much, any tips/advice I would really appreciate.....

[Immortal Soldier]

A friend of mine began the cycle then quickly stopped, theres approximately 30 tablets left(25mg). Are they worth taking? Also have a bottle of winstrol(new, oil base), from what I've researched you definately shouldnt take them together? Could I take whats left of the dball tablets then follow it with the winstrol?

I began taking the pills already, 3 days so far and have been taking novadex xt every night as well. Along with a solid liver support, tons of water, animal pack(multi-vitamin as you all know) which contains milk thistle and everything I've read you should take when using any sort of anabolic.

Just a bunch of newb questions....have been looking all over the net and this just seems like the best place to get good info. I've been training/dieting for nearly 2 years now and just want a little boost, hopefully you guys can help me out. ANY advice you guys can give I'd greatly appreciate it.... thanks!

Novadex XT the one made by Gaspari Nutrition?

That won't work to help you at all bro, OTC AI's don't effect the body when dealing with AAS use.

Why did you come asking if they worth to start taking when you already started? lol doesn't make sense


What are you stats?

Age?
Bf%?
Height?
Cycle Experience?

[MMArmour]

30 pills dosed at 25mg would gain you some pounds in water but not much else bro. Been there and done that before. Not recommended. nolvedex xt is a joke. throw it in the trash. Honda450 was nice enough to give you a sample cycle but you have alot of reading to do before you even consider taking his advice for that cycle and pct (which is spot on btw). no. do not take the winnie after the dbol is done. Dont even finish the dbol.

[hankdiesel]

Something tells me you have no cycle knowledge or experience. Steroids are not like supplements at GNC. You can't just take whatever and see what happens. Do some research on steroids. These are powerful hormones man, be safe.

[panther06]

Something tells me you have no cycle knowledge or experience. Steroids are not like supplements at GNC. You can't just take whatever and see what happens. Do some research on steroids. These are powerful hormones man, be safe.

I've done quite a bit of reading but when it comes down to people talking in code in which I dont quite understand I get a bit lost haha......

I'm going to stop using it completely, I'll start reading up and checking into things before doing anything else. I took the word of a friend, should of done more research... sorry for the stupid questions, and appreciate the honesty.

[Mammon]

I've done quite a bit of reading but when it comes down to people talking in code in which I dont quite understand I get a bit lost haha......

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=604

btw, the information given here might not always be what the person wants to hear but we are looking out for their best interest.. whether they believe it or not.. most of the guys are pretty responsible gear users and wont lead one in the wrong direction.

[panther06]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=604

btw, the information given here might not always be what the person wants to hear but we are looking out for their best interest.. whether they believe it or not.. most of the guys are pretty responsible gear users and wont lead one in the wrong direction.

Hey no hard feelings to anyone giving me the dumbass thing, I wouldnt of come onto this site if I wasnt ready to catch some shit. I'm looking for the best information, and alot of the guys here seem like they really know there shit so just hoping they don't mind helping me out!

I'm going to continue reading up and in the mean time if anyone knowledgeable doesnt mind answering some stupid ass questions lmk haha....

[Mammon]

thats what the forum is for brutha..