1st cycle questions

**378feetdeep** · 01-19-2009, 10:43 PM

so...I've spent the last few years actively training in martial arts (mostly muay thai and tang soo do) also, wrestling throughout high school but, over the summer last year i was jumped by a group of guys and stabbed in the eye. I had to take some time off from martial arts so I got into the gym and began bulking up. When I was fighting, I weighed 140ish...now I weight 180-185 after about 6 months of a solid high protien diet plus regular weight training. very little cardio though so my body fat has risen to about 18 percent give or take. im a short guy only 5'5"...im 24 and i recently bought a cycle of 'triple blend'. I'll be doing 2, 1cc injections per week for 10 weeks. each cc has 100 mg of propionate , 100mg of enanthate and 100 mg of cypionate .

Ive been researching this site for quite a while now so i have a good idea of a good pct but i figured i'd get some opinions given my specific stats and cycle.

so, my questions are

1. what would be a good pct for me and when should i start it?

2. I realize that my bf levels are higher than perfect so what can i do to reduce my estrogen levels the best? I am very dedicated to whatever i do so i am confident i will stick to a strong lifting/cardio/diet regiment.

**Mammon** · 01-19-2009, 10:47 PM

dont like the blend.. the prop screws it all up.. atleast for me..

anyway pct start time will go by the longest ester.. the cyp.. so 18 days after last inj.

you can run an AI through the cycle to limit the conversion of test to estrogen

**Mammon** · 01-19-2009, 10:48 PM

oh yeah... clomid and nolvadex

**lovex** · 01-19-2009, 11:35 PM

for 1st cycle go with test e or test c only.......

**Brown Ninja** · 01-20-2009, 12:54 AM

get the body fat down to at least below 15% and look up a test C with d bol kick start cycle

**GMD3019** · 01-20-2009, 01:06 AM

what up 378 thought I stop by and check out ur first thread nicely put together lol and to answer the recommended cycles that were posted above this tripple blend has already been purchased and so yes cyp or test e would be a better bet for first cycle but this is still going to work fine at least I hope so cus im doin it too lol anyway ill stop highjacking ur thread 378 give me a call tomorrow

**JiGGaMaN** · 01-20-2009, 01:13 AM

bad blend to buy. eod injections will be a must. should have went single ester.

**GMD3019** · 01-20-2009, 01:23 AM

for me im having to already do ed injections for tren a so its not that big of a deal but this time im definitely going to remember to do pct cus my last cycle was tren a and test e and I didn't bother to do a pct I know dumb a** and now im stuck on trt lol so that's why my buddy here is posting about what pct is needed

**MMArmour** · 01-20-2009, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by GMD3019

for me im having to already do ed injections for tren a so its not that big of a deal but this time im definitely going to remember to do pct cus my last cycle was tren a and test e and I didn't bother to do a pct I know dumb a** and now im stuck on trt lol so that's why my buddy here is posting about what pct is needed

Youre stuck on trt because you effed 1 pct?? unlikely.

**GMD3019** · 01-20-2009, 04:03 PM

well my natty test never came back up so I don't no what to tell u the testosterone test results showed I was in the very very low norm so my doc put me on trt so it may be not likely but for me trust me it happened sorry to burst ur bubble

**MMArmour** · 01-20-2009, 04:07 PM

im glad your so proud of it. least this way you likely cant reproduce!

haha im done im done. ive been taking stabs at everyone today.

**GMD3019** · 01-20-2009, 08:02 PM

ouch not even funny I've actually been stressing out lately bout what I can do to get off trt cus im only 22 and I do want to have kids someday I need something to take my aggression out on lol alright my bad not funny anyways im wondering I've been on trt for 5 months now Im curious to that maybe in those five months my natty test has come back up to normal or would the trt keep my natty test suppressed

**MMArmour** · 01-21-2009, 11:20 AM

it would keep your natural test supressed. i would seriously try to come off and STAY off for a good long while. It can take a long time for your body to get back to where it was as far sexual reproduction. Maybe post a thread with all the details of your case and some of the vets will tell you just what you need to do and what pct protocol to follow to attempt to resurrect your natty levels.