2nd Cycle

**Foo2011** · 01-20-2009, 11:49 PM

First some info.
Age: 28
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 200lbs
BF %: between 12-15
Yrs Training: almost 12 yrs
Type Training: Bodybuilding now, For a semi-pro football league in the fall
Goal: Size, Strength

Cycle:
Week 1: 250mg Deca ....250mg Sustanon ....30mg Dbol
Week 2: 500mg Deca....500mg Sustanon....40mg Dbol
Week 3: 500mg Deca....500mg Sustanon....40mg Dbol
Week 4: 500mg Deca....500mg Sustanon....40mg Dbol
Week 5: 500mg Deca....500mg Sustanon
Week 6: 500mg Deca....500mg Sustanon
Week 7: 500mg Deca....500mg Sustanon
Week 8: 500mg Deca....500mg Sustanon
Week 9: 250mg Deca....250mg Sustanon

I will also be running 6-OXO during this cycle simply because i couldnt get my hands on any arimidex or letrozole at this time...

My PCT will be a month of Clomid.

Feel free to coment on anything at all...

**CHUCKYthentic** · 01-21-2009, 12:04 AM

do you plan on shooting the sus every other day?

**Foo2011** · 01-21-2009, 12:15 AM

I was planning on shooting the sust. twice a week

**CHUCKYthentic** · 01-21-2009, 12:24 AM

even tho sus has a long half life, it has short actings tests in it (prop). if you dont shoot it every other day you wont get any results and your blood levels wont be stable. of course shooting it eod will tell you that you need more... can you get test e? you can shoot it twice a week at 600mg (300mg each shot). you ll def see better results IMO with test enanthate (possibly less sides too) and since you plan on running dbol , dbol it ll act as a kicker so you start seein results quicker

**seriousmass** · 01-21-2009, 12:25 AM

I think you should add something else to your PCT other then Clomid. Perhaps Nolvadex ? Deca is strong, and you need a stronger anti - e, clomid won't be enough on its own.

**CHUCKYthentic** · 01-21-2009, 12:28 AM

and as for everything else... i personally dont like deca . a lot do but i dont. if you have run it b4 and like it then stick to it... as for your pct it needs a lot of work. you should add nolvadex to it and an aromatose. oh i jus saw what u said about 6-OXO... well i dont know much bout that so i cant give you any advice there. but id def get some nolva and an aromatose. have you checked out lion?

**Foo2011** · 01-21-2009, 12:45 AM

I head running nolvadex and clomid together off set eachother, and they dont work together at all...i found nothing on lion..

**CHUCKYthentic** · 01-21-2009, 12:50 AM

thats not true man. read some of the pct threads. clomid and nolva act in 2 different ways, both ways are crucial during pct. i have never had a problem like that nor heard of that. here is a suggestion for clomid and nolva pct for 4 weeks, but everyone works different and prefers diff.

clomid 100/50/50/50
nolva 40/20/20/20

**CHUCKYthentic** · 01-21-2009, 12:53 AM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=255196

check out that thread on pct.

as for lion check out liquidex

**charger619** · 01-21-2009, 12:58 AM

I did research i am going to take some liver support pills too

**CHUCKYthentic** · 01-21-2009, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by charger619

I did research i am going to take some liver support pills too

research for what bro? this isnt your thread man dont come in interupt someones thread

**Foo2011** · 01-21-2009, 11:08 AM

LiquiDex is Anastrozole which is an AI, Nolvadex is a SERM. you said run clomid and nolvadex...

**Foo2011** · 01-21-2009, 11:12 AM

Actually now that i'm looking on AR-R how do u use those products? they injectable?

**chuckt12345** · 01-21-2009, 11:20 AM

First thing is your cycle is to short. You need to go longer. You can shoot the sust twice a wk if you want but go about 12 wks with it and the deca 11.

**hankdiesel** · 01-21-2009, 12:21 PM

week 1-12 sust 500mg
week 1-10 deca 500mg
week 1-4 dbol 40mg (keep the doses constant and the sust can be shot 2x per week)
pct start 10-14 days after last sust shot

**Mammon** · 01-21-2009, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Foo2011

Actually now that i'm looking on AR-R how do u use those products? they injectable?

they are oral.. also suggest you shop around a bit

**Foo2011** · 02-08-2009, 08:49 PM

Hey guys, just here to post an update and have one small question... The cycles goin awsome and its still very early, i increased all my weights, my strength is way up there. I'm already weighing in at 210 212ish with a lower bf %. My only question is i'm bulking up and everything but i have some winstrol i wanna start taking when i'm done with this cycle to cut up and get ready for summer. I was wondering how long i should wait after my PCT to start something like that?