Orals at the end of a cycle?

[kloan]

I was thinking of adding an oral to the end of my Test E cycle. Since I have to order another bottle of Test to get to 12 weeks, I thought what the heck, may as well get an oral to go with it.

So, I was thinking either Tbol or Winny.

I've read Winny can be hard on the joints because it acts like an anti-e, but my question is at the end of the cycle, where the estrogen is likely already raised, would the lower estrogen be noticeable?

I also wonder, since I'm going to be starting HCG at week 11, which also increases estrogen, perhaps the Winny would be a good one to take.

Or, maybe I could try Dbol and add Adex (already have) at .5mg eod to help with bloat/estro.

Opinions?

[Dobie-BOY]

Sure, lots of people use winny at the end of a cycle. Never heard of any anti E properties though.

[adimenia]

i wouldnt use HCG in this type of cycle as it not heavy at all and you are shut down completely (well from my experience it was a waste of time in my 1st cycle of test e solo)
with regarding to the oral that depends on what you want to archive winnie will help with the water retention you probably experiencing but if you want some added strength and hardness i would try some halo as for liver toxicity well they are are both liver toxic so it dosent really matter id take liv52 if i were you

[kloan]

well i was hoping to get additional strength, and hardness would be great (kinda got a soft look goin on with the bloat and added weight - bulking) so if halo is better for that... i'll check it out

[ChemWizard1]

I prefer to run long esters which means I have 3 weeks from last inject until start of PCT. I've run Dbol for the 3 weeks leading up to PCT with great results. You start PCT the day after your last pill (same time as 3 weeks since last shot).

Winny or Var would be better than Dbol if you don't want any bloating look.

[hankdiesel]

oral winstrol for 4 weeks at the end would make for a good cycle