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    jughead22002 is offline New Member
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    please HELP

    I have looked at these pages alot to gather alot of good advice. I have used steroids here and there over the years. Im wondering if my liver is going to die..im using right now with no pain...

    50 mg D ball tabs is staying
    im also using
    50mg winni tabs
    50 mgprovirin tabs

    i also have anavar if needed/better... what is the best combo for anti water retaining and sex drive?
    should i cut one out?
    which one helps water retention??

    thanks for your help
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    stats?
    this is a crazy cycle...orals only? dbol and winnie? you have alot of research to do. If your going to cycle go test only....nolva and clomid for pct. Read the newbie guide and educational threads

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    thanks.. what would you suggest as a good, not to water gain test?

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    Research bro

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    hey, thanks for your input. i have babbled in this and that.. nothing really good.

    im short, and been working out for 12 yrs..
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    wst 34

    my problem is i pack on muscle, as well as unwanted fat. im already pretty good size, ( for me anyway.._) looking to maintain and a bit of a kick..is anavar and provirin good as a mild bridge till i can go back on prop. test in a few months?

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    I would say yes its a good bridge

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    If you want to cycle get some Test E, do 250 mg twice a week mon and thurs for 12 weeks and if you want to throw an oral in use dbol at between 30-50 mgs a day for the first 4 weeks

    keep nolva and clomid on hand for pct...make sure you have everything before you start cycling and I also use ldex at .25 mgs throughout the cycle. helps keep bloating down

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    at least drop the dbol out of those orals.

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    Age? how many previous cycles? and how long have you been running the dbol and winni?

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    im 36, ive been on winni for 3 months.. d ball just started,...I was on prop, 2 shots a week for a few months... im th inking after reading allthe posts.. i should stop or at least just do Anavar and proviron for a few months to recover and hold on to any gains..

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    you need to stop all suppressive compounds, run a full pct, then get bloodwork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big View Post
    you need to stop all suppressive compounds, run a full pct, then get bloodwork.
    ^^^agreed!!!

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