cycle straight after cycle opinions

**crammysteve** · 01-21-2009, 02:26 PM

how many you guys finish one cycle and go onto another straight away ie using different gear without pct after first? go easy just curious.
cheers

**redz** · 01-21-2009, 02:27 PM

Some guys stay on permanently. They cruise on test and then do cycles twice a year.

**MMArmour** · 01-21-2009, 02:28 PM

Ive never done it. imparts consequences tho bro. youre not even talking about cruising and blasting. youre just talking about blasting and blasting.

Stats?

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-21-2009, 02:36 PM

Not alot of people do that because the longer you are on the longer you have to be off. So if you do a 20+ week cycle you have to be off for 20weeks+6week pct= 26 weeks which is around 6-7 months.

Compared to if you do a 12 week cycle you can do another cycle in around 3-4 months.

Nonetheless, I will most likely be doing a 22 week cycle, I have decided on it just working out the details

1-12 500mg test/week
12-22 200mg test/week 50mg of Tren A ED

6 week PCT: HCG , Clomid, Nolva, and possibly an A.I.

Still working out the details

**crammysteve** · 01-21-2009, 02:41 PM

just wanting options ater a 10 week sus 1ml eod,pct course or keep going using something else?

**Mammon** · 01-21-2009, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by crammysteve

how many you guys finish one cycle and go onto another straight away ie using different gear without pct after first? go easy just curious.
cheers

imo better off running pct and taking time off..

**crammysteve** · 01-21-2009, 02:45 PM

good advice guys thks

**MMArmour** · 01-21-2009, 02:47 PM

Immortal... this is prolly only his second cycle (the one he wants to jump into). I dont think he can make an informed decision for himself about a back to back cycle.

**Big** · 01-21-2009, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by crammysteve

just wanting options ater a 10 week sus 1ml eod,pct course or keep going using something else?

I hope that wasn't a first cycle. Stats before and after cycle?
As to the question, I wouldn't do it. Basically it sounds like doing pct right in the middle of a really long cycle, that's senseless imo.

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-21-2009, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

Immortal... this is prolly only his second cycle (the one he wants to jump into). I dont think he can make an informed decision for himself about a back to back cycle.

True, just tell him my experience.

Obivously, I don't recommend it unless you know what your doing.

Listening to the body is key and your goals are also key.

Im doing this to get my body up for competitions starting next year will be my first (hopefully) so yeah, Im not doing it just so I can look bigger at the beach or something lol.

**crammysteve** · 01-21-2009, 03:15 PM

guess thats not good for first cycle 10wk 1ml sus eod?just listened to advice from guys at training(i can see ppl shaking there heads right now).this was before i joined this site(which is great).aint completed cycle yet(wk 7) but have showed great gains all round so thought everything was fine?just never had access to the web till recently.

**redz** · 01-21-2009, 03:18 PM

Assuming the Sustanon was 250mg/ml that was a very high dose let alone for a first cycle. Thats 875mg/week but really you should have been around 500mg/week for a first cycle.

**MMArmour** · 01-21-2009, 03:22 PM

Ya. your inj. schedule was correct for sust but not a full ml each inj. cause like redz said. Thats a very large first cycle.

**crammysteve** · 01-21-2009, 03:24 PM

cheers for that just listened to ppl say sus needs to be done eod?and yup 250
what advice now? stop cycle short followed with pct 3weeks later or cut down to mon,wed,and fri only or even less??

**crammysteve** · 01-21-2009, 03:28 PM

there in 1ml amps?so only use 0.5ml every time?obviously cant keep other half as not sterile anymore is that right.
cheers for advice

**redz** · 01-21-2009, 03:31 PM

You can pre-load syringes so there is no waste.

**MMArmour** · 01-21-2009, 03:33 PM

no no. Finish your proposed 10wk run. Then PCT. then do our general guideline for next cycle. meaning

time on+pct=time off. so if you have a 10 wk run + 4 weeks pct...take 14 weeks off. And then you ned to get a blood test to check your lipid profile and test etc and if all is well...then go again!

**crammysteve** · 01-21-2009, 03:37 PM

excellent didnt know that,so you now suggest halfing my amount for last 3wks of cycle?whats the best storage place once loaded?is it fridge or that not matter

**crammysteve** · 01-21-2009, 03:39 PM

cheers MMArmour for advice

**MMArmour** · 01-21-2009, 03:39 PM

honestly bro...idk what everyone else would say...but youve gone this far no problem...in the interest of keeping it consistant just run out that same dosage. 3 more weeks is nothing. so continue on your dosage youre taking now. But if you want to come down then yes. the fridge is just fun.

**MMArmour** · 01-21-2009, 03:41 PM

No problem bro. Happy to help. Next time read up some more and dont just listen to people in the gym. Half the time its bs. I learn about 10 new things a day on this forum. i love it. i like being able to help people while at the same time advance my personal knowledge. good luck bro!

**mx3** · 01-21-2009, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by crammysteve

how many you guys finish one cycle and go onto another straight away ie using different gear without pct after first? go easy just curious.
cheers

cycles back to back do not work out well ive tried. I ran a bulk to cut back to back no pct no time off. It was the worst thing i could have done I will never do it again. first off its not good for your body. second you lose alot of your gains doing a bulk to cut and even if its just two back to back bulkers, the second cycle will not yeild good results cause your receptors will already be saturated. Time off is not only better for restoring natty levels but will allow you to make better gains when it comes time to cycle again.

**crammysteve** · 01-21-2009, 04:54 PM

Thanks all again for the info

**Big** · 01-21-2009, 05:39 PM

for next time, consider ordering a few sealed sterile vials, they are cheap. you can open all the amps and transfer the contents into a vial, then just draw out what you wish to use.

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-21-2009, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by mx3

cycles back to back do not work out well ive tried. I ran a bulk to cut back to back no pct no time off. It was the worst thing i could have done I will never do it again. first off its not good for your body. second you lose alot of your gains doing a bulk to cut and even if its just two back to back bulkers, the second cycle will not yeild good results cause your receptors will already be saturated. Time off is not only better for restoring natty levels but will allow you to make better gains when it comes time to cycle again.

I disagree, can I see evidence of downregulation of receptors?

Im pretty sure the receptors form faster than the steroids can deregulate them, so I would like to see studies of this happening.

Others feel free to chime in..