First time ever cycle need help planning it.

[lincoln9]

I have not started this cycle yet, I'm am still putting all the ingredients together. I am trying to put together a perfect first time cycle with Test E as the only compound. I want as few sides as possible and want to keep my gains to a max after pct.

I have a few questions. About Arimidex, HCG and Finasteride when to take them and how long? But look at the plan below first.

Should a 12 week Test E cycle look like this?

500 Test E Mon 250mg Thurs 250mg weeks 1 to 12
arimidex .25mg eod weeks 1 to 12
finastride 1mg eod weeks 1 to 12
nizorol 2% ed weeks 1 to 12

HCG 250iu's e4d should I start this week 4 should it stop and start again or go right thru to week 14 1 week prior of pct?

PCT planned to start 2 weeks after last shot of test
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Letrozole on hand/ in case of gyno
Accutane on hand/ in case of out of control acne

Can the arimidex, finastride and nizorol be used past week 12 or even until the end of pct?

Stats
36
5'9
196LB
15 years training on and off last 2 years have been training.
BF 15%
The goal is bulking and strength right now.


Please feel free to add things or recommend changes to this. I'm not worried about the cost I want the safest cycle put together, before I start.

Thanks, to anybody willing to help.

[auslifta]

Looks good, maybe lower bf% to around 11-12

[auslifta]

Try proactiv before accutane, that stuff is pretty harsh. It will dry your skin out, not good when you are growing.

[lincoln9]

How do I take the hcg along with this?

[auslifta]

I dont know enough about this to advise, try a search

[Phate]

How do I take the hcg along with this?

you won't need hcg for a test only cycle, hcg is used in more suppressive cycles(most containing a 19nor like deca or tren), a good clomid/nolva/aromasin pct will work well

I have not started this cycle yet, I'm am still putting all the ingredients together. I am trying to put together a perfect first time cycle with Test E as the only compound. I want as few sides as possible and want to keep my gains to a max after pct.

I have a few questions. About Arimidex, HCG and Finasteride when to take them and how long? But look at the plan below first.

Should a 12 week Test E cycle look like this?

500 Test E Mon 250mg Thurs 250mg weeks 1 to 12
arimidex .25mg eod weeks 1 to 12i would this as needed only, if you notice water retention and then use it, but that's JMO
finastride 1mg eod weeks 1 to 12
nizorol 2% ed weeks 1 to 12

HCG 250iu's e4d should I start this week 4 should it stop and start again or go right thru to week 14 1 week prior of pct?

PCT planned to start 2 weeks after last shot of test
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Letrozole on hand/ in case of gyno
Accutane on hand/ in case of out of control acne

Can the arimidex, finastride and nizorol be used past week 12 or even until the end of pct?
do you have a family history of MPB?
Stats
36
5'9
196LB
15 years training on and off last 2 years have been training.
BF 15%
The goal is bulking and strength right now.


Please feel free to add things or recommend changes to this. I'm not worried about the cost I want the safest cycle put together, before I start.

Thanks, to anybody willing to help.

how bout posting diet? that's going to be the determining factor in your gains

[lincoln9]

I'm doing my workout right now just between sets. I'll post my diet in about an hour I assure you it's good. Do I drop the Arimidex and add Aromasin?

[Phate]

I'm doing my workout right now just between sets. I'll post my diet in about an hour I assure you it's good. Do I drop the Arimidex and add Aromasin?

don't run arimidex in pct, aromasin is for pct

[lincoln9]

So do I stop taking arimidex at the end of week 12 or week 14?

Do I start the aromasin 2 weeks after the last test shot, just like clomid and nolva?

What is the dose I should take of aromasin?

Does my nolva/clomid doses stay the same with this addition of aromasin?

[lincoln9]

Meal 1
6:30am 1 scoop of Isolate protein with 8 oz water= 22g protein Allmax Isokool iced tea

Meal 2
9:00am 1 cup of oats mixed with Allmax chocolate whey= 25g protein and 2 Tbsp peanut butter
Animal pak vitamins
1cup of orange juice not sweetened
1 cup of 1% milk
Glucosamine 1 pill

Meal 3
12:00am 1.5 cups of brown rice and wild rice mixed
1 can of tuna
2 scoops of whey depot anabolic milk with 8oz milk =38g protein
DHA 1 pill 100mg fish oil

Meal 4
3:00pm Whey depot Muscle mass 3 scoops 53g protein and 82g carbs plus 12oz milk this is about 900cal
5 grams creatine

Meal 5
5:30pm
1 cup mixed rice brown and wild
30g chicken breast
Glucosamine 1 pill

Meal 6
8:30pm
8-10oz lean steak
3 potatoes and salad
Glucosamine 1 pill

ZMA 1 hour before bed
21g Whey depot Micellar Casein right at bed

This is about 4000 to 4500 cal

[Brown Ninja]

it's nice to see a first timer who is not retarded. It is greatly appreciated when someone comes on here already having done research as opposed to being lazy and trying to make everyone do the work for them.

[CHUCKYthentic]

OP good to know you have done alota research

I keep hearing people talk about accutane and wanting to take it. it is very very serious stuff. my lil bro use to take it and had to get blood tests every week. unless it was subscribed to u by a Doc, be careful bro, it also can cause serious mood swings and depression. there are other oral meds out there that will do the job without the bs sides of accutane

[lincoln9]

I don't plan on touching it, I got it just incase I have out of control acne. I will use other methods first like my GF's proactive and Vichy products. I don't want any scarring if it gets out of control which I have no idea if it will or won't. Thanks for the compliments I have been hard at work researching.

I still need help on doses of hcg if I should use it or not?
How long to take Finasteride and dose right to the end including pct?
When to stop Arimidex and start Aromasin?

What should my doses of Nolva/Clomid be now that I'm adding Aromasin to my pct?

[Big_gRunt]

Finasteride is only for hair loss. So if you're loosing your hair now take it now. You might need more finasteride during the cycle (2 x 250 test) ....hmmm. Definitely take finasteride every day. - Even when not on cycle, otherwise you're just wasting your time.

Finasteride off cycle: 1mg/ED
Finasteride on cycle: Maybe 1mg 2xED (Morning & evening)

Having said that, I'll mention that I haven't cycled AAS before.

But the way DHT & hair works is cumulative. To give it the best chance of surviving I recomend blasting it with finasteride for as long as you can before the cycle (weeks to months). Keep using it during the cycle and after as well (indefintely).

I onced used 1mg 2xED for about 6 weeks when my hair was in real trouble and it worked great. Then I backed it off to 1mg ED. You can tell when you're taking enough because your scalp feels good (not itchy, not inflamed).

[lincoln9]

No, I'll consider myself lucky, I'm not balding at all.

I'm trying to avoid it at all costs. If someone had a crystal ball and told me, if you do this cycle, you will go bald, I wouldn't do it. I would stay natty and live with less size and strength.

Thanks for the help with proper amount to use. I'm slowly getting this cycle figured out.

[lincoln9]

These are my changes so far.

Does this look like a perfect cycle for a first time user that wants the least amount of sides and to keep most of the gains after pct? I have no budget for this, I am willing to get it as perfect as possible.

500 Test E Mon 250mg Thurs 250mg weeks 1 to 12
arimidex .25mg ed weeks 1 to 12 only as needed if I have bloating
finastride 2mg ed weeks 1 to 14 then weeks 15 to 18 1mg
nizorol 2% eod weeks 1 to 18

No hcg

PCT planned to start 2 weeks after last shot of test
Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 25/25/25/25/25

Should the nolva or clomid be dropped with the addition of Aromasin?

[Mammon]

no.dont drop the clomid or nolvadex. not sure the aromasin is even necessary with the clomid and nolvadex..
just the clomid and nolvadex would be fine imo

[lincoln9]

Would you agree that hcg isn't necessary with a Test E only cycle?

[chuckt12345]

I wouldnt worry about the HCG with just 500mg of test unless you tryin to hide shrunkn nuts from your wife. Clomid/nolva will be enough
If your not prone to MPB then any hair loss should eventually grow back,, unless your like everyone else and get addicted to the juice

[Mammon]

you can use the HCG if you want but not necessary.. thats totally up to you..
i use 500iu a couple times a week especially in longer or heavy cycles..
will be fine with or without

[lincoln9]

Well if I'm not prone to MPb would taking Finasteride and Nizorol keep me from losing any in the first place? So I don't have to wait for it to come back, or is it very possible I'll lose some anyways?

How long after your off cycle, does it take for most to go their hair back if they did lose some?

If I do decide to take hcg on this cycle, is it ok to leave everthing else as planned? Would my hcg be weeks 1-12 or 1-14 500iu's e4d?

Right now the plan is Nolva/Clomid for pct and no Aromasin.