Friend is confused

**hendrira** · 01-22-2009, 12:34 PM

My buddy who is 28 and im not new to this his stats are good is concerned about a test e cycle, ive researched tons and gave him what ive learned. he wanted to know how to run test e and i told him that whats considered a minimum amount is 250mg twice a week (every 3.5 days) which is 500mg a week but some guys at the gym told him that was way too much one advised 200mg a week (one shot) is the max, another told him 300 mg once per week. i have givin him pct advice also ( the guys at the gym have never heard of pct, when they come off they dont take anything to restore their natural production) for test e 15 days after last injection statr pheednos pct. so im askin for help to set him strait back me up brothers. am I right? are those guys at the gym idiots?

**XD40** · 01-22-2009, 12:38 PM

Guys @ the gym= Completer idiots...well, they are just uneducated they might be nice guys lol. What you gave your friend is spot on bro. tell him to read this thread as I'm sure others will post the same reaction i have. (Friend reading- Listen to your bro he is right.)

(This is a simple 1st cycle for most) although i would like to know his stats.

**marcus300** · 01-22-2009, 12:39 PM

You can use 300mgs per week for the first cycle, but anything under that wouldn't achieve muscular gains, there is a study relating to this that you need a minimum of 300 to induce an increase in muscle tissue, so 300-500mg per week will be fine.

Yes, PCT is required and your correct and the gyms guys are idiots..

**hendrira** · 01-22-2009, 12:50 PM

Thanks guys, his stats are: he is 28yr old and about 5'8 im not sure of his weight but he hes already muscular very good muscle definition very low bf he has been training for 14 years and his diet is up to par.

**lionitas10** · 01-22-2009, 12:57 PM

u seem pretty smart about this stuff as my post say ive been taking d-bol and winni v for a month and i was unaware they were a steroid and my job piss tests once a month and i just took one so i need to know if it is gonna show up on my piss test PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help

**redz** · 01-22-2009, 01:01 PM

seem pretty smart about this stuff as my post say ive been taking d-bol and winni v for a month and i was unaware they were a steroid and my job piss tests once a month and i just took one so i need to know if it is gonna show up on my piss test PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help

They wont be testing for steroids as it is very expensive unless you have some strange job.

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-22-2009, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by lionitas10

u seem pretty smart about this stuff as my post say ive been taking d-bol and winni v for a month and i was unaware they were a steroid and my job piss tests once a month and i just took one so i need to know if it is gonna show up on my piss test PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE help

It won't show up, steroid urine tests are way too expensive for companies, unless you are in law enforcement or government related field, they don't test for steroids .

**hendrira** · 01-22-2009, 01:03 PM

arent they like 200 or 300 to test one subject for any anabolic compound? they are right its much too expensive to test for unless you in major legue basball