Gains using Test and Deca, when Test has been done before

**Worsley** · 01-22-2009, 09:53 PM

hey guys, im a rookie, this will be my 1st cycle. my question to you guys is.. Will i be wasting my time doing a Test/Deca cycle for my 1st one, if i have done test before, and got about 20 pounds off it. please keep your mean comments to yourself about this because i KNOW how bad it is. my 1st test cycle i guess you could say was M1T. if i knew more i would have gone right to injection. oh well, live and learn. im mostly worried that my body is tapped out for gains on test, i mean i gained about 20 pounds on one bottle of M1T. i dont want to spend the money and get nothing.

what do you guys think. i want to put on another 20 pounds, and it will be my 1st cycle, so i was looking at the novice cycle #2 from this site as my 1st injection cycle.

thanks, any help will be appreciated

**Big** · 01-22-2009, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Worsley

hey guys, im a rookie, this will be my 1st cycle. my question to you guys is.. Will i be wasting my time doing a Test/Deca cycle for my 1st one, if i have done test before, and got about 20 pounds off it. please keep your mean comments to yourself about this because i KNOW how bad it is. my 1st test cycle i guess you could say was M1T. if i knew more i would have gone right to injection. oh well, live and learn. im mostly worried that my body is tapped out for gains on test, i mean i gained about 20 pounds on one bottle of M1T. i dont want to spend the money and get nothing.

what do you guys think. i want to put on another 20 pounds, and it will be my 1st cycle, so i was looking at the novice cycle #2 from this site as my 1st injection cycle.

thanks, any help will be appreciated

ok, I'm totally lost. this is your first cycle if you don't count your last cycle?

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-22-2009, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Worsley

hey guys, im a rookie, this will be my 1st cycle. my question to you guys is.. Will i be wasting my time doing a Test/Deca cycle for my 1st one, if i have done test before, and got about 20 pounds off it. please keep your mean comments to yourself about this because i KNOW how bad it is. my 1st test cycle i guess you could say was M1T. if i knew more i would have gone right to injection. oh well, live and learn. im mostly worried that my body is tapped out for gains on test, i mean i gained about 20 pounds on one bottle of M1T. i dont want to spend the money and get nothing.

what do you guys think. i want to put on another 20 pounds, and it will be my 1st cycle, so i was looking at the novice cycle #2 from this site as my 1st injection cycle.

thanks, any help will be appreciated

Age?
Height?
Weight?
Diet?
training experience?

**10nispro** · 01-22-2009, 10:09 PM

Come on Big, get in the game. If you don't inject it doesn't count.

**Worsley** · 01-22-2009, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Big

ok, I'm totally lost. this is your first cycle if you don't count your last cycle?

haha sorry, yes this will be my 1st cycle, of injection. i did a bottle of M1T, before i knew more about injection and oral. so im just curious if gains form test will stop once you hit a certen point, or will it not matter that i did M1T, if i want to do test propionate .

i dont want a cycle of test to be useless, becasue i already got gains off test (M1T)

if that makes more sence

**Immortal Soldier** · 01-22-2009, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Worsley

haha sorry, yes this will be my 1st cycle, of injection. i did a bottle of M1T, before i knew more about injection and oral. so im just curious if gains form test will stop once you hit a certen point, or will it not matter that i did M1T, if i want to do test propionate .

i dont want a cycle of test to be useless, becasue i already got gains off test (M1T)

if that makes more sence

M1t doesn't convert at the same percentage because some of it is lost going through the liver twice. While injection is straight into the muscle and only goes into the liver once.

Run Test E @ 500mgs/week (250mgs every 3days) it is for all first steroid users aka injection users. Maybe kickstart with dbol if you want to.

If you have a good diet you will make gains regardless.

Test prop would be a horrible idea for a first cycle, you will be pinning yourself everyday or EOD at best and that you dont want to do when your new to injections.

Take Test e or cyp

**10nispro** · 01-22-2009, 10:25 PM

Need stats.

When did you do stop the m1t cycle?

Your body is very smart and adapts to all things, including AAS. Hence the need to change dosages and have off time before starting another cycle.

I would suggest lots of research before doing anything with AAS. Not trying to scare you off, just trying to let you know it's not a game to play with your body's endocrine system. Read, learn and do things right, if you choose to do AAS.

**Worsley** · 01-22-2009, 10:33 PM

hey sorry i wrote my details but i guess they didnt show up
Age:21
Weight:176lbs, 9%body fat
Height 6'
Diet: very healthy, no junk, about 5000 calories, 225grams of protien per day
Training: about 4 years strongly.

i finished M1T probably about 4 months ago, so its been a while, and what is AAS? i wish i never did it haha,

**10nispro** · 01-22-2009, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier

M1t doesn't convert at the same percentage because some of it is lost going through the liver twice. While injection is straight into the muscle and only goes into the liver once.

Run Test E @ 500mgs/week (250mgs every 3days) it is for all first steroid users aka injection users. Maybe kickstart with dbol if you want to.

If you have a good diet you will make gains regardless.

Test prop would be a horrible idea for a first cycle, you will be pinning yourself everyday or EOD at best and that you dont want to do when your new to injections.

Take Test e or cyp

Should have waited for stats before giving that much information

**10nispro** · 01-22-2009, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by Worsley

hey sorry i wrote my details but i guess they didnt show up
Age:21
Weight:176lbs, 9%body fat
Height 6'
Diet: very healthy, no junk, about 5000 calories, 225grams of protien per day
Training: about 4 years strongly.

i finished M1T probably about 4 months ago, so its been a while, and what is AAS? i wish i never did it haha,

According to those stats, you need to hit the diet forum before doing AAS(gear). Find a diet that will fit your goals.

**Worsley** · 01-22-2009, 10:53 PM

yeah but whats AAS? (gear) do you mean juice?
my diet is awesome, ive been putting on pounds pretty steady and its healthy, my mom is a nutritionist haha, but its so hard with how unreal my metabolism is