Cycle Help

**Mr. Bird** · 01-24-2009, 01:40 PM

Can someone breakdown a 16 week Growth Plan

I have 10 years Exp. I am not a rookie in the least. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Elements:

30 Primo
50 Winn
2 Bottles Tren 100---- Tren Acetate
100/10 mg Anavar

May throw in some Dec for fun.

I know I will need some serious PCT so I have HCG ,Clomids and Nolv on hand.

**Matt** · 01-24-2009, 01:45 PM

Stats first
Age
bf
cycle history
training history
weight
height
diet..........

**Mr. Bird** · 01-24-2009, 01:51 PM

Thanks Bro for the quick response:
Age--------32
bf ------12%
cycle history-----12 years
training history-----17
weight------190
height------5.9
diet.......... Very Clean/ Experienced Weight Trainer

**inky-e** · 01-24-2009, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Bird

Can someone breakdown a 16 week Growth Plan

I have 10 years Exp. I am not a rookie in the least. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Elements:

30 Primo
50 Winn
2 Bottles Tren 100---- Tren Acetate
100/10 mg Anavar

May throw in some Dec for fun.

I know I will need some serious PCT so I have HCG,Clomids and Nolv on hand.

Hows about throwing in some research as well,,,,

**Mr. Bird** · 01-24-2009, 01:55 PM

I have done extensive research on this and wanted to get some other opinions from people in our world. Dont know if I should possibly throw in Test every 10 days as well.

**Bossman** · 01-24-2009, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Bird

I have done extensive research on this and wanted to get some other opinions from people in our world. Dont know if I should possibly throw in Test every 10 days as well.

Not trying to bust your balls, but, as Inky said, you need more research. Spend some time on here, check out suggested cycles. You could not have done that before posting.

Hit the cycles link and it will take you where you need to go.

**Mr. Bird** · 01-24-2009, 02:11 PM

Ok so here is what I am thinking then and you can give me your opinion. Thinking Anavar may not even be necessary? Thoughts?

Weeks:
1---Dec 400mgs
2---Dec 400mgs/
3---Dec 400mgs/100mgs Prop
4---Dec 400mgs/100mgs Prop
5---Dec 400mgs/100mgs Prop
6---Dec 400mgs/100mgs Prop
7---Dec 400mgs/100mgs Prop
8---Dec 200mgs/100mgs Prop/50mgs Winn ED
9---100mgs Prop/50mgs Winn ED/400mgs Primo
10--100mgs Prop/50mgs Winn ED/400mgs Primo
11--100mgs Prop/50mgs Winn ED/400mgs Primo
12--100mgs Prop/50mgs Winn ED/400mgs Primo
13--100mgs Prop/50mgs Winn ED
14--50mgs Winn ED
15--PCT
16--PCT
17--PCT

PCT-----Clomid/ Nolv 3 weeks

**chuckt12345** · 01-24-2009, 02:19 PM

u need to throw in test,, thats a heavy cycle for someone who doesnt know he needs test n there.

**Mr. Bird** · 01-24-2009, 02:20 PM

I mentioned before that I probably should throw test in every 10 days

**chuckt12345** · 01-24-2009, 02:22 PM

how many cycles have you run and what compounds

**Mr. Bird** · 01-24-2009, 02:24 PM

Dude I have done it all, Growth, test, winns, Mast you name it. I wanted to give it up but I think I will do one more...LOL.. I just wanted some expert advice if I was heading in the right direction with this one.

**Mr. Bird** · 01-24-2009, 02:27 PM

And to answer the cycle part.....probably 15-20 in my 12 years of AS.

**MMArmour** · 01-24-2009, 02:29 PM

Mr Bird... stop talking big and get real. And the plain truth of this is YOU DONT KNOW SHIT. Want advice on if youre in the right direction? NO. You missed the mark by a mile, wise ass. Stop being so cocky. Right now you just look stupid.

**chuckt12345** · 01-24-2009, 02:29 PM

im assuming you were buying more gear? because from what you listed you dont have enough. Id run at least 250mg/wk of test til wk 14, deca needs to be run longer than 7 wks, your tren times are prb ok (not positive). Id drop the primo and one of the win or var.

**Mr. Bird** · 01-24-2009, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by MMArmour

Mr Bird... stop talking big and get real. And the plain truth of this is YOU DONT KNOW SHIT. Want advice on if youre in the right direction? NO. You missed the mark by a mile, wise ass. Stop being so cocky. Right now you just look stupid.

Ok so whats the fn point of using this forum if I cant speak to people. who's cocky? dont know how you got to that from anything I said. Sounds like your having a bad day. Hope tomorrow is better.

**Mr. Bird** · 01-24-2009, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by chuckt12345

im assuming you were buying more gear? because from what you listed you dont have enough. Id run at least 250mg/wk of test til wk 14, deca needs to be run longer than 7 wks, your tren times are prb ok (not positive). Id drop the primo and one of the win or var.

Thanks very much for the insight

**MMArmour** · 01-24-2009, 02:51 PM

im not going to bicker with you. But from the get go you threw out this whack ass cycle and then say "youve done it all". You may have "done it all" but youve "done it all" wrong. You can talk to whoever youd like my friend. You missed the point and i dont care anymore. Good luck

**Mr. Bird** · 01-24-2009, 04:43 PM

Not going to go back and forth either, if you think my cycle sux then whats your advice?
My pic is 10 months ago, so I think I have some what of an idea of how to do AS. What you may like, may not be anothers preference.