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    need help, my blood levels are crazy!!

    Ok, I have done many cycles at very high doses, the last one I did was test e 1250 mg/week for almost 6 months, deca 500 mg/weekfor ten weeks, d bol 50 mg/day for 4 weeks, and I through in some tren a at 250 mg/week for about 6 weeks. I like to stay on test for a long time because I hate not being on anything. well I took a two month break then went to the doctor, my kidney levels, liver enzymes, glucose and cholesterol levels were ****ed. my doc doesn't know i do roids, she told me to stay off alcohol. oh yeah and i take blood pressure medicine and acne medicine. So I dont want to kill myself but I dont want to stop taking anabolics either. any suggestions would be great. thanks!!

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    did you take too much orals ?? injectables dont screw your kidneys and liver as far as i know.

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    With all those high cycle doses, you should be so big, your doctor would suspect you're taking AAS. My doctor takes one look at me and is suspicious.

    Post your blood test results here.

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    the messed up ones are:
    creatinine 1.50
    ast 62
    alt 61
    glucose 69
    egfr 56
    cholesterol was 211

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    1250mg for 6months,, dude you prb screwed up your HPTA perm.

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    sounds like an abuser

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    i usually stick to injectables, but i have done d bol at 50 mg per day the longest i have ever ran it was 8 weeks and i did winny orally at 100mg per day for about 4 weeks.

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    dude , i dont know what the hell you did , but you must be doing something wrong , you either used a lot of organ taxing compounds or you are drinking too much or something like that . most probably i think you used a little bit too much organ taxing compounds.

    you shouldn'e have stayed on test at that high of a dose for so long , people cruise and blast bro lol . those dosages are used for a short period of time not 6 months, and even so , i dont think its the test that screwed you up , its the other compounds in the cocktail.

    i am still waiting for someone who understands blood work results very good to actually explain to us where your at .

    i am keeping my eye on the thread , keep us posted bro we appreciate the experience , plz .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigswole32 View Post
    sounds like an abuser
    yes, i guess i was

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    drinking while you were on. beer creates tons of triglicerides/spelling. if you are drinking a lot your liver cannot pass all of them which basically then your liver leaks out the enzymes, oh plus you were doing a crazy amount. hows the sex drive. my buddy abused and cannot produce natural test. has to get shots from the doc or no boners! bummer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fivestars View Post
    i usually stick to injectables, but i have done d bol at 50 mg per day the longest i have ever ran it was 8 weeks and i did winny orally at 100mg per day for about 4 weeks.

    i believe thats the reason right there man , 50 mg of dbol for 8 weeks ?(!) not to mention the winny at 100 mg.

    no wonder your levels are screwed ,

    tell you what , rest up a while, drink lots of water , take vit c and some milkthistle to detoxify , i'm sure they will go down

    dont worry .

    what did the doctor tell you anyway ?


    by the way , did you recover your natty test ???
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    yeah the doc just told me to drink a lot of water and stay off the alcohol. I haven't had my test levels checked but I am going to get it done asap

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgb6810 View Post
    With all those high cycle doses, you should be so big, your doctor would suspect you're taking AAS. My doctor takes one look at me and is suspicious.

    Post your blood test results here.
    i'm with you, everyone thinks i'm on and i'm not even that big yet....**** if i ran test for 6 months at 1250 (assuming results kept coming even though they prolly wouldn't) i'd expect to be at least 260-270

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivestars View Post
    the messed up ones are:
    creatinine 1.50 high but not too bad
    ast 62 same
    alt 61 sam
    glucose 69 good
    egfr 56 ok
    cholesterol 211 not bad at all, diet to reduce

    you'll live and nothing here looks shocking at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MercyDog View Post
    you'll live and nothing here looks shocking at all.
    its good that someone who knows how to read these results is in the thread

    indeed there is nothing to really worry about , just rest up a little bit for a while , and then IF you want to cycle for that long again , use the blast and cruise method and dont abuse the dosages, especially the orals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverTest View Post
    its good that someone who knows how to read these results is in the thread

    indeed there is nothing to really worry about , just rest up a little bit for a while , and then IF you want to cycle for that long again , use the blast and cruise method and dont abuse the dosages, especially the orals.
    ya, those look all good to me.

    cholesterol at 211 is'nt bad at all. High end is 200 so 211 is easy to fix without medication.

    creatinine at 1.5 isn't bad. 1.5 is still in acceptable range with the lab we use here. 1.6 becomes out of normal range. Creatinine can jump from day to day depending on how much water you drink and how your body is reacting. I honestly wouldn't worry until you've had a couple of bloodtests over 1.5.

    So, why did you say this is all F'ed up when your doctor probably didn't think it was all that bad. If a doctor thinks those are crazy then he/she must have all perfectly healthy patients.

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    shit from the way my doctor acted I thought I would be dying sometime this year.lol she said this was way out of wack. I honestly dont know anything at all about blood levels my buddies just suggested that I should think about getting them checked since I have been on a lot of stuff. I am going to go this week to get another panel done and get my test levels checked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivestars View Post
    shit from the way my doctor acted I thought I would be dying sometime this year.lol she said this was way out of wack. I honestly dont know anything at all about blood levels my buddies just suggested that I should think about getting them checked since I have been on a lot of stuff. I am going to go this week to get another panel done and get my test levels checked.

    great , keep us posted especially if you recovered or not i am interested in that cs i am into long cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivestars View Post
    Ok, I have done many cycles at very high doses, the last one I did was test e 1250 mg/week for almost 6 months, deca 500 mg/weekfor ten weeks, d bol 50 mg/day for 4 weeks, and I through in some tren a at 250 mg/week for about 6 weeks. I like to stay on test for a long time because I hate not being on anything. well I took a two month break then went to the doctor, my kidney levels, liver enzymes, glucose and cholesterol levels were ****ed. my doc doesn't know i do roids, she told me to stay off alcohol. oh yeah and i take blood pressure medicine and acne medicine. So I dont want to kill myself but I dont want to stop taking anabolics either. any suggestions would be great. thanks!!


    Holy Shit bro, did you read up on steroid use before you jumped in?

    What are your stats now? Im really interested, that was a dangerous cycle man.

    What was your PCT?

    Quote Originally Posted by RuhlFreak55 View Post
    i'm with you, everyone thinks i'm on and i'm not even that big yet....**** if i ran test for 6 months at 1250 (assuming results kept coming even though they prolly wouldn't) i'd expect to be at least 260-270
    Bro, I highly doubt you would be 260-270. That is approaching the weight of Mr. Olympia's.

    One cycle (even at extreme dosages) wouldn't put you at 260-270 unless you are talking about a high bf% (15% or so).

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    yeah I read on it a lot before I ever decided to start a few years ago then I started thinking that I knew what was best for me and started listening to some of the guys at the gym about these high doses and shit. a couple of them were even purple colored(seriosly lol, their skin was ****ing purple.lol) but I got the good idea that more was better and i made gains of course. I am 5'7" 195lbs and 10% bfi right now. but ****, i feel like it was all a waste now. for my pct I did 20mg nolvadex ed for two weeks then 20 eod for another two, also i was doing 500iu hcg a week for a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivestars View Post
    shit from the way my doctor acted I thought I would be dying sometime this year.lol she said this was way out of wack. I honestly dont know anything at all about blood levels my buddies just suggested that I should think about getting them checked since I have been on a lot of stuff. I am going to go this week to get another panel done and get my test levels checked.
    Make sure you get Free and Total Testosterone and Estradiol tested

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivestars View Post
    yeah I read on it a lot before I ever decided to start a few years ago then I started thinking that I knew what was best for me and started listening to some of the guys at the gym about these high doses and shit. a couple of them were even purple colored(seriosly lol, their skin was ****ing purple.lol) but I got the good idea that more was better and i made gains of course. I am 5'7" 195lbs and 10% bfi right now. but ****, i feel like it was all a waste now. for my pct I did 20mg nolvadex ed for two weeks then 20 eod for another two, also i was doing 500iu hcg a week for a month.
    IMO that was a weak PCT.

    How much weight did you gain and keep after cycle? (with that PCT i would expect a good amount to leave)

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    i wouldn't call what you did a " very dangerous cycle" , and those dosages are being used a lot its ok , i still think the orals are the ones that screwed you up , not the actual high injectable dosages although i wouldn't stay on such high dosages for that long of a period , about 6 to 8 weeks would be enough.

    its just the WAY you did your cycles that was a mistake IMHO , not the actual dosage.

    but hey , what the hell , everybody's reaction is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivestars View Post
    Ok, I have done many cycles at very high doses, the last one I did was test e 1250 mg/week for almost 6 months, deca 500 mg/weekfor ten weeks, d bol 50 mg/day for 4 weeks, and I through in some tren a at 250 mg/week for about 6 weeks. I like to stay on test for a long time because I hate not being on anything. well I took a two month break then went to the doctor, my kidney levels, liver enzymes, glucose and cholesterol levels were ****ed. my doc doesn't know i do roids, she told me to stay off alcohol. oh yeah and i take blood pressure medicine and acne medicine. So I dont want to kill myself but I dont want to stop taking anabolics either. any suggestions would be great. thanks!!
    I don't know what you guys are talking about. Although that has slightly high dosages in the cycle. It is no where near uncommon. MANY people stack test @ 2g / EW with a huge amount of deca EW. And yes many do run it for extended cycles (i.e. 6 months, or longer). -- I will say that you should have been cruising / blasting if you wanted to stay on such an extended cycle. Nevertheless, what's happened has happened..

    OP... A lot of this is hype. From those results you will be able to recover. I'd assume that you've completely shut down your natural test production though. That PCT was very weak. You're probably going to have to go on TRT for the rest of your life, once your test levels come back from the lab.

    But that just means you'll get test for the rest of your life. It sounds like that's what you want, since you will want to cycle... research blasting.

    good luck. hope everything works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
    IMO that was a weak PCT.

    How much weight did you gain and keep after cycle? (with that PCT i would expect a good amount to leave)
    yea, what was you're weight before this madness?
    You should be huge. My buddy never did a roid in his life and is 5'7" 190-195 (depends on the day he weighs)!
    No he's not fat at all either.

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    ^crap pct also!
    Hcg IMO only during cycle
    Clomid and nolva for pct ( I couldn't even begin to tell you the dose or length of pct )! Because of the cycle.
    AI during cycle

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    hmm
    that weight seems to be pretty low
    i havent touched steroids and im gaining rediculous amounts of weight... i did a small m1t cycle to gimme a lil boost.... im only a little taller than u and pretty close in weight...
    im assuming if i jumped on a gram of test with a wicked diet id get to atleast 230 easily

    just saying bro...unless ur body fat is like 5%...you SHOULD be way bigger...assuming ur gear was dosed correctly and you had a proper diet

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    Hmm for using that much gear I thought you would be a lot bigger. What does your diet look like?

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    Well I couldn't train last year like I wanted to. I ride motorcycles and do stunts too I had three bad wrecks last year, had my arm in a cast for a while twice, lost a lot of skin and all the shit that goes with that. But I trained as hard as I could and I ate pretty good. I took in between 300-400 g of protein ed. Last year I competed at 163 with 3-4% bf. So I made some gains. But not like I wanted. This year was supposed to be good. I got married, not stunting like I used to and training really hard. Was planning on starting test e, deca , and anadrol as soon as I got my results from the doc. Now that's not gonna happen. I'm still training hard just all natural until I heal up. I called the doc today about getting my natural test levels checked. I'm planning on doing that next Tuesday. The only reason I'm waiting that long is because I did a weeks worth of test e that I took my last shot on Friday because I got my results on sat. Shit sucks dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivestars View Post
    shit from the way my doctor acted I thought I would be dying sometime this year.lol she said this was way out of wack. I honestly dont know anything at all about blood levels my buddies just suggested that I should think about getting them checked since I have been on a lot of stuff. I am going to go this week to get another panel done and get my test levels checked.
    well, if she did a full CBC on you maybe there were other things that were way off. You only mentioned a few tests and there are a lot more in a CBC and even a Chem panel if she did that.

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    My buddy just got out of the hosiptal, his Creatinine level is almost 5.0 he said. He went to get his kidneys checked out because he has had blood in his urine and he said when he comes he can see blood clots in his semen. The put him in the hospital right away, said his kidneys were failing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Microbrew View Post
    My buddy just got out of the hosiptal, his Creatinine level is almost 5.0 he said. He went to get his kidneys checked out because he has had blood in his urine and he said when he comes he can see blood clots in his semen. The put him in the hospital right away, said his kidneys were failing.

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    why would you comment on a thread that's almost a month old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    why would you comment on a thread that's almost a month old.
    why would u?

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    Man, you should look like cutler! I've never stacked like that. Be careful, abuse is what gives the hard side effects. I'll argue with anyone that steroids can be safe if used properly, but not safe if aren't. Too me that's overkill, I'd tone it down a little with 800 mgs a week of deca and test, thats still high as i usually take 300mgs of deca and 250 test.I weigh 262 6-2 with 21 inch arms, 58 inch chest and 33 inch waist and 12 percent fat. Everywhere i go im cornered with questions about lifting.How are they not suspicious of you? With doses like that, man i hope its worth it to ya......Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by seriousmass View Post
    why would you comment on a thread that's almost a month old.
    A month old, are you kidding me? That's all you have to contribute. LOL. But I'm glad you took the time out to post that for me.

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