2nd cycle

[allout13]

Im 24
5' 11"
185
goals: im looking to put on a little mass but my main goal is power explosiveness and speed.

proposed cycle:
16 weeks
test e 250mg/wk

pct:
nolva and clomid

i was also looking into winny to keep up the speed? any thoughts

[seriousmass]

That dosage of test - e is extremely low.

I'd bump it up to at least 500mg / wk to see some good results.

16 weeks is quite a while. I'd probably suggest going to 12... after that point side-affects will start to occur more frequently.

[seriousmass]

I'm throwing some winstrol into the end of my cycle as well. I'm doing a 12 week Test - E cycle, and finishing up with 50mg of winstrol ED for 4 weeks.

I've never done it before, but it looks like it could produce some good results. here's hoping lol.

[*RAGE*]

I'm throwing some winstrol into the end of my cycle as well. I'm doing a 12 week Test - E cycle, and finishing up with 50mg of winstrol ED for 4 weeks.

I've never done it before, but it looks like it could produce some good results. here's hoping lol.

I have done this same thing and yes you will like what you see..IMO

[allout13]

the winstrol is mainly for the speed though. and the reason im doing a low dosage is because i dont want it to be so obvious im doing it. but last cycle when i did 500mg/wk of test e i had shin splints everyday and my joints ached.

[honda450]

Throw in some Deca @ 400-600mg with your Test if you are havin those kind of problems.. LUBEEEEEEE

[Big]

if you had joint issues I would reconsider the winny.

[allout13]

i mean maybe joint issues was illplaced words. when i would run, around a mile or so my shins would start to kill and i had no idea why. but the winny shoudl help me gain speed?

[allout13]

anyone got any other advice?

[hankdiesel]

test weeks 1-12
deca weeks 1-10

[Dinosaur]

test and eq.

[allout13]

deca would destroy my sex drive. plus i really dont want to add so much mass. id rather the strength without weight gain.

[Big]

deca would destroy my sex drive.

why is that?

[allout13]

Well im against deca for 2 reasons. From researching on the board and form what other members have given advice to newer people (like myself) is that deca will not only add huge amounts of mass when added to test e, it also depletes your sex drive?
any take on that?

[austin4023]

deca will deplete your sex drive if take by itself.... yes test and deca is a mass building cycle so if you dont want to gain mass id stay away from deca. If your main goal is explosiveness and power with just a little mass gain I would look into Anavar. Most users report a strength increase with around 10 lbs of lean mass gained. check it out