PGCL Protocol x2

**BTK** · 01-27-2009, 09:58 AM

Today I just started 25mcg in each bicep. I'm 5 10 204 and about 12%. I just injected about 2 minutes ago on an empty stomach in each bicep and we'll just see how this goes. I plan to run 25mcg in each tricep in 6 hours if I feel up to it for a total of 100mcg/ED. I'm running 250mg TestE and 400mg deca /week along with 100mg drol ED to stay as anabolic and build/keep as much muscle as possible while diet will suffer from PGCL. I took before pictures and I will post them ASAP. Hopefully this thread is interesting for u fkers! :P

**BTK** · 01-27-2009, 10:08 AM

10 mins after injection cramping just started. Stomach region only. No muscle cramping yet. I'm still slightly hungry but omg that is going to go away ><

**BTK** · 01-27-2009, 10:31 AM

Going out, I'm starving but cramping if you could understand that. I actually might be worse off that I am so hungry. Sides may just seem worse because im STARVING! I'm going to attempt to eat. More info later.

**BTK** · 01-27-2009, 11:56 AM

Had some flu like symptoms (flush face, sweats, tired etc.) Cramps and other symptoms stopped about 1 hr and 10 minutes after injection. Ate a huge meal fine with no nausea. 10 mins after meal had to head to toilet! Huge orgasmic bowel movement followed. OMG it was the best sh*t I ever took! I feel 100% now and it's less then 2 hours after injection. PUMPS are crazy (biceps are TIGHT). Going to gym will update later.

**tripmachine** · 01-27-2009, 11:58 AM

niiiice!! I'll be following this thread for sure! i haven't even read it yet so i'll start reading now... ;p

**BTK** · 01-27-2009, 03:55 PM

Just got home from gym. Arm day. Bi's and tris sooo pumped and cardio went well. Feel awesome overall. Had minor cramp just recently and thought "hrmm where did you come from" but other then that perfect thusfar. Only on shitter one time today! Low on pins so going to do 1 injection ED in morning until pins come which should be in 3 days or less. This is going better then I thought it would!

**BTK** · 01-27-2009, 04:40 PM

I'm going to man up and shoot it SubQ in stomach tomorrow. I know the sides will be more harsh and last longer because I'm shooting closer to the smooth tissue but I could use the localized fat loss more then the spot growth from the biceps (as could most people). We'll see how the sides are and if they aren't too bad I will be doing the rest of this cycle SubQ when I wake and IM in bicep at night if I feel up to it.

**BTK** · 01-28-2009, 08:26 AM

SubQ complete. 25mcg left of stomach and 25mcg right side of stomach. Burned lil more then Mt2 but nothing major. Cramps didn't start yet will inform about the severity of them once they hit. It seems bicep injection and SubQ injection is no different when it comes to the time the side effects kick in. Just because smooth tissue is in abdominal area it seems as though it isn't making a difference.

**LATS60** · 01-28-2009, 09:03 AM

Wow, i can't believe ppl are still willing to try this drug, rather you than me, you must be at the end of your tether wanting to use this.

**spywizard** · 01-28-2009, 09:18 AM

hahahah..

that's great i love the stuff...

I bet you are in the bathroom..

low dose works best for me.. just shy of the cramp stage..

**BTK** · 01-28-2009, 09:38 AM

Actually ZERO sides SubQ.... Hrmmm. I'm going go eat something soon and then I'll repost. I think my stomach being SOOOO empty yesterday and me being very hungry when I woke cause sides to be worse. Cramps/sweating was pretty brutal yesterday but tolerable.

**BTK** · 01-28-2009, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by LATS60

Wow, i can't believe ppl are still willing to try this drug, rather you than me, you must be at the end of your tether wanting to use this.

NAh, just not a puzzy. It's a different feeling then being and the end of your tether but you're probably not familiar with it.

**BTK** · 01-28-2009, 04:37 PM

Just did 2nd injection of the day (about 8 hours later) 25mcg in left side of and 25 in right side of my pretty well digested stomach. Painful at injeciton site for some reason. I'm going back to the gym because my friend needs a ride. I'll do cardio again while I'm there and attempt to eat when I get done.

**spywizard** · 01-28-2009, 04:38 PM

it can sting sometimes and sometimes not.. that's normal..

**Bossman** · 01-28-2009, 05:35 PM

If I didn't have ulcerative colitis, I would try PGCL. But, Im afraid it would tear my guts up. Good luck BTK! Reading with interest.

**BTK** · 01-28-2009, 08:55 PM

100mcg today complete with ZERO SIDES. Except sitting on the toilet but no one minds that. What I have LEARNED thus far; Even though SubQ in gut is closer to smooth tissue the absorption rate overrides the side effects. In other words IM in Bicep (furthest large muscle group from smooth tissue) gets into your system faster and side effects are worse in the abdominal region then SubQ in stomach.

**jackuped** · 01-29-2009, 02:56 AM

Thanks for the updates. Please give updates till the end of your cycle.

**BTK** · 01-29-2009, 11:53 AM

50mcg this morning burned again at injection site but nothing major. No cramping or other sides (almost considering 100mcg 2x a day). Arms are fuxing PUMPED all day long. It is absolutely crazy! It's nice when you don't even have to flex and you're already flexing? lol

**hankdiesel** · 01-29-2009, 12:33 PM

For those of us who don't know, what is PGCL?

**BTK** · 01-29-2009, 11:47 PM

PGCL is a form of prostaglandin like pgf2a. pgf2a is a human form of prostaglandin which is a smooth tissue contractor and is used to induce women into labor while PGCL was developed for inducing cows into labor aka PGCL is WAY STRONGER then pgf2a. PGCL is site specific and when injected SubQ when it comes in contact with a fat cell, the cell lysis aka splits and dies. When injected IM PGCL helps blood rush to the site, so much blood that the tissue actually tears and will grow bigger (almost like working out but not :P). IT WORKS AMAZINGLY!

**BTK** · 01-29-2009, 11:49 PM

NOTE TO SELF: Do not take pgcl for granted and even though the side effects seem to be zero when injecting 100mcg via SubQ in stomach do not get cocky and do it on a newly filled stomach!!!! Ugh that sucked.. 15 mins of horrible nausea and shitting in gym.

**BTK** · 01-30-2009, 10:06 PM

So far after 3 days I've noticed a lot more muscle pump etc. then fat loss.

**Mammon** · 01-30-2009, 10:15 PM

ive heard alot of horror stories using the PGF2A.. interesting read pn the PGCL

might want to install a ferguson.. lol

**Hazard** · 01-31-2009, 06:56 PM

BTK - i've been following this thread and will continue to. Thank-you for posting this..... my father is going to give the stuff a run when it comes in and after that.... i will too. I may try IM and a transdermal version to see the fatloss effects.

thanks again man!
~Haz~

**BTK** · 02-02-2009, 01:28 AM

The best I can describe the stomach nausea etc. feeling is it's almost exactly like mt2, even the intensity, 100mcg subQ of pgcl is like 1mg MT2 as far as stomach sides. This cycle is very tolerable, way more then I would have imagined. Then again I am injecting subQ and it takes pretty long to fully absorb. I've been shitting normally except for the first shit after injection, that one is usually bad. PGCL is increasing igd, and the increased igf with lower blood sugar makes me crave cookies and dessert like crazy. I've been giving in all too much

All in all I've so far lost at least an inch on my waist and my arms are way fuller. It has only been 6 days.

**Dobie-BOY** · 02-02-2009, 02:13 AM

Sweet post bro, I got a ton at home. Just waitin for my life to stabalize a little. I wonder if you would still get results if you weren't able to take it ED?

**BTK** · 02-02-2009, 04:31 AM

Of course you would, just not as good. It's not really a process that happens over time it pretty much begins to kill fat cells on contact and rushes tons of blood to IM injected areas causing tearing and growth.

**BTK** · 02-02-2009, 03:48 PM

I'm taking time off until my slin pins come in the mail. The current one I'm using is like one of the pieces of metal that protrudes from a fork... No fun. Pins should be in within the next day or two and then I will start again. Any questions etc please ask away, I'm attempting to inform anyone of anything they don't know if they are interested about PGCL.

**jackuped** · 02-03-2009, 03:27 AM

Please let us know when your six pack starts to be really difined also
when will shrinking love handles exist. But maybe you don't have a problem?
Give more on your objectives. Thanks

**BTK** · 02-03-2009, 03:48 AM

I don't have love handles first off. I was just on a huge dirty bulk and gained a ton of muscle and was doing little cardio. It's going to take a lot longer then 6 days to lose that much bf and see defined abs. I am doing 30 mins of cardio on training days and 1 hr of cardio on non training days. All my injections are going to be subQ because I need the fat loss more then the muscle growth.

**jackuped** · 02-08-2009, 02:29 AM

Have you got your new pins yet? I like to here how things are going. Is the muscle growth still there? Hows the definition progress?

**BTK** · 02-08-2009, 06:07 AM

I'm still waiting on the pins. I am INFURIATED with this company. It's been 2 weeks since I ordered them. I will call again Monday and give them sh*t about it. Amazingly the bicep is still has some pump left in it (from the PGCL guaranteed, its not normal pump that I'm used to) I can just tell the difference. Not even close to as much as before but then again I only did IM in bicep ONE time lol! The rest were subQ in stomach and I have noticed fat loss in my stomach region but then again I only did a MAX of about 12 subQ injections over a 6 day period (1-2x a day). I can't WAIT to start running this again. WRU PINS?!?!!?! ><

**jackuped** · 02-08-2009, 07:11 PM

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If you need them right away Costco has them to.

**BTK** · 02-11-2009, 10:44 AM

bump

**JAMES-D** · 02-24-2009, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by spywizard

hahahah..

That's great i love the stuff...

I bet you are in the bathroom..

Low dose works best for me.. Just shy of the cramp stage..

and what dosage would that be ??

**JAMES-D** · 02-24-2009, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by jackuped

I order from these guys: http://www.***services.com/items/Products/list.htm there are the fastest and cheapest, shipping can be prority mail which is great to.

If you need them right away Costco has them to.

My pharmacy gives me the whole box i just ordered 30 g 1mil 1 inch i still have 1/2 a box of 30 g 1/2 inch 1mil B.& D. I WOULD HAVE FEDEX EM TO YA FOR FREE. ( but im new here joined today) its legal to buy in NY. BUT NOT BUY THE BOX !! U Said to ask questions so here i go !! I ordered 18 500 mcg dry powder amps was told to fill amp with 2 mil/bac water and to pre load 1 amp into 10 syringes and recap and store at room temp. in a ziplock and use as needed for up to a month ??? Hows that sound so far ?? Ive been cycling for many years just this year started to run HGH ( OPERATION ) so as far as MCG'S GO MY SYRINGE DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING BUT IU'S ?? Hes telling me that 0.2 is 50 mcgs ?? would that be correct ? I want to get the mcgs down before i do anything because i know nothing about mcg's ???? Im just used to the good old mg's or iu's. Thats my first of about 10 questions. I have been recoupin from a rotator cuff and torn bicep's about 9 months ago so i lost about 25 pounds ive gained back about 10 lbs but am far from what i looked like before the operation. And is it safe to cycle ? 750 CYP AND 550 DECA a week ( mon & thur ) gonna stop the GH. or should i still stay on the GH 3 iu's a day ? I will ask my next questions about running it 7 days a week in shooting 4 different areas inetrmuscle . and also see how 50 mcg's effects me im constipated from the meds ive been using ( im sure that will go away fast ) And what size needle are or were u using for you bi's i was thinking 1 in bi's, tri's 1/2 in lats ? My lats disappeared !! Maybe evEn chest cause its so hard for me to bench. i gota go close grip its almost like im working my tri's. Sorry if you heads spinning but i got so much more research to do. Thanks hope to get some feedback . J.D

**JAMES-D** · 02-25-2009, 12:26 AM

Bump !!! What happened ??

**JAMES-D** · 02-25-2009, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by BTK

I'm taking time off until my slin pins come in the mail. The current one I'm using is like one of the pieces of metal that protrudes from a fork... No fun. Pins should be in within the next day or two and then I will start again. Any questions etc please ask away, I'm attempting to inform anyone of anything they don't know if they are interested about PGCL.

Cant Pm you yet but could use some help if someone can PM BTK for me it would be a lot of help , THANKS