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01-27-2009, 08:02 PM #1Junior Member
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3 gears mixed into one vial???
Any thoughts on gear that is already combined into a blend in one big vial?
Obviously gear mixes when you stack them into the same syringe, but is there anything wrong with home brew gear that is stored as a blend of 3 types of gear in one?
Example:
Test, tren and masteron all mixed together in the same vial....as opposed to the norm of a different vial for each gear, and only mixing when shooting.
I know the chemistry and that each of the 3 different types of molecules are stable individually, but is there any way that they could spontaneously react with one another after being stored together for a while?
Maybe some way the hydroxyl groups groups one compound could condense with another?
Can mixing gears affect the pH of the overall solution and destabilize the molecules or protonate/ deprotonate them?
Funny that my name is Chem Wiz I know, but these actually are serious questions. Any data out there to support?
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01-27-2009, 08:11 PM #2
My question is, if you mix them up all together. How would you known your getting the same dosage per ml that you did when they were separate?
For example, if you have 250mg/ml of Test and 100mg/ml of Tren and 250mg/ml of Masteron and you mix it up into one.
How will you know that when you pull that per ml your still getting the same dosage for all of them?
I don't know maybe I am confusing myself with this...
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01-27-2009, 08:52 PM #3Junior Member
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Well assuming it is a homogeneous mixture using the same oil then it is easy...
Example:
250mg/mL Test you have 10mL: 250mg/mL x 10 mL = 2500mg
100mg/mL Tren you have 10 mL: 100mg/mL x 10 mL = 1000 mg
250mg/mL Masteron you have 10 mL: 250 mg/mL x 10 mL = 2500 mg
So in total you would have:
2500 mg Test
1000 mg Tren
2500mg Masteron
all mixed into the total volume of 30 mL
2500 mg Test/ 30 mL oil = 83.33 mg/mL Test
1000 mg Tren/ 30 mL oil = 33.33 mg/ ml Tren
2500 mg Masteron/ 30 mL oil = 83.33 mg/mL Masteron
So for every mL of oil you would have 83.33 mg/mL Test, 33.33 mg/ ml Tren, and 83.33 mg/mL Masteron.
Obviously the original gears are much more concentrated than the example above so you dont have to shoot 6 mL at a time
what I am looking at is 120mg/mL test, 60 mg/mL Tren, and 120 mg/mL Masteron so I would be shooting a total of 5 mL per week
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01-27-2009, 09:19 PM #4Banned
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I would keep them all seperate.
If you mix them all together I would think you could be drawing up more of one compound then the other.
You would never know forsure what you are drawing up.
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01-27-2009, 10:02 PM #5Banned ~ Scammer
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if thats what you brew or was brewed fine but i wouldnt mix a bunch of finished product together..
had a few very good tren /prop/mast blends
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01-27-2009, 11:11 PM #6
not a good idea you cant be 100% sure that you will be injecting the amount of each gear that you want to be injecting and therefore you will not keep you mg's consistent per injection
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01-27-2009, 11:16 PM #7
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01-28-2009, 05:15 AM #8Junior Member
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Thanks for the feedback The reason I ask is that I can get 3 types of gear blended into one vial for cheaper than buying all 3 separately. I see what your saying about not knowing for sure what the concentration is, but in theory it should be just fine though since they shouldn't react and are all just as lipid (oil) soluble....right?
Mammon how were those blends: were they brewed together from powder? And what mg/mL were each? Thanks
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01-28-2009, 07:48 AM #9
There are labs that sell blends, and there is test/tren /mast available from some suppliers. Ive heard it takes more ba to be stable, but I dont make my own, so cant support this.
The last blend I had was; test prop 50mg, anadrol 25 mg, and dbol 25 mg per ml. Great for a cycle jumpstart, but a little painful.
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01-28-2009, 09:14 AM #10Banned ~ Scammer
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had 3.. one was 75mg tren 100mg prop and 100mg mast prop
one was 100mg tren 150mg prop 100mg mast
the last one was 300mg test e, 200mg tren e and 200mg mast e.
brewed together from powder.. 100% eo
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01-28-2009, 01:37 PM #11Junior Member
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i agree with chemwizard1 if mixed in the same oil the dose will be equal every time as the chemicals are dissolved and are as one with the oil. the only problem would be when you have several oils that do not bond with eachother which would create a wall between the compounds which would mean that you cant effectivly dose.
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01-28-2009, 01:40 PM #12Junior Member
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now i think of it is Sustanon not a mix. obviously they are all forms of testosterone but they are still different compounds?
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