First Cycle Advice

**Oxen** · 01-29-2009, 03:57 PM

Hi all,

Im thinking of starting my first cycle with following

Testosterone Prop 500mg Weekly 8 weeks
Deca Durabolin 500mg 6-7 weeks
Stanozol 50mg daily tablets for 6 weeks
PCT = Clomid Nolvadex & HCG

Stats
Age 31
Height 6ft
Weight 90kg
BF Estimate 18%
Training 3 Years

Any opinions or advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for replies.

**Mammon** · 01-29-2009, 04:00 PM

to much gear for a first cycle.
might consider going with a long ester as well to avoid ed/eod pokes.. can be an issue for a first timer..
6-7 weeks of deca is to short.

i have more..

how are you going to run the pct..
which weeks are you gonna run the winny
hows the diet looking..

**chuckt12345** · 01-29-2009, 04:02 PM

Not good man,, to many compounds for first cycle.
prop is fine for 8wks but i would def hold of on the deca for next time.
win is ok.

**chuckt12345** · 01-29-2009, 04:03 PM

dammit mammon

**Oxen** · 01-29-2009, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Mammon

to much gear for a first cycle.
might consider going with a long ester as well to avoid ed/eod pokes.. can be an issue for a first timer..
6-7 weeks of deca is to short.

i have more..

how are you going to run the pct..
which weeks are you gonna run the winny
hows the diet looking..

Hi Mammon,

Thanks for the reply
Was planning on running winny for the last 6 weeks
Agreed long ester would porb be a good idea
Need advice planning the pct.

**Matt** · 01-29-2009, 04:17 PM

Your bf looks a little high imo.. If it were me id be looking at reducing it first lol, save on the unwanted sides..

**Matt** · 01-29-2009, 04:18 PM

Some guys here think its ok to cycle with 18% bf, so its your choice..

**Oxen** · 01-29-2009, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

Some guys here think its ok to cycle with 18% bf, so its your choice..

Thanks again for the replies guys

Matt Im on a cutting diet at the moment and have seriously reduced carb intake will run with this for the next two weeks and then start the cycle.
Im not going to go with decca as advised by you folks
Any help on my pct set up?

**chuckt12345** · 01-29-2009, 04:25 PM

go read up on the pct section. if you read it , its easier to understand and it will stick in you mind better than someone telling you and forgetting

**jamyjamjr** · 01-29-2009, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by MAD MATT

Some guys here think its ok to cycle with 18% bf, so its your choice..

wouldn't it help to run an ai like lethro if your bf levels a bit high?? i think it would be much safer like that

**redz** · 01-29-2009, 04:33 PM

wouldn't it help to run an ai like lethro if your bf levels a bit high?? i think it would be much safer like that

Sexual side effects are common with letro, adex is a better choice.

**Mammon** · 01-29-2009, 04:40 PM

i go with adex everytime.. letro works well, but a bit to well imo..

**jamyjamjr** · 01-29-2009, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Mammon

i go with adex everytime.. letro works well, but a bit to well imo..

even at .25 ed? do you expet sexual sides??? how about eod??

**Mammon** · 01-29-2009, 04:48 PM

.25 you should be alright.. its usually a little higher a dose where sides become an issue..
i just prefer adex at .25 ed..

**jamyjamjr** · 01-29-2009, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mammon

.25 you should be alright.. its usually a little higher a dose where sides become an issue..
i just prefer adex at .25 ed..

im easily prone to gyno and my bf is runnin a bit high too, so i wanted to take the precaution and do .25 lethro ed for my entire cycle.. which is gonna be tren /sust

**Mammon** · 01-29-2009, 05:03 PM

letro... no h..

i hear ya.. hell i run both adex and nolvadex during cycles.. but that me..
id definately run an AI.. id also have enough nolvadex on hand for pct and incase you need it during the cycle..
might consider running 200mg b6 ed as well to help keep prolactin levels in check..