Cycle without testo?

[Critical Mass]

I`m just comong of a tren ace/test p/winny cycle. I`m 26,5.10,220 pounds. Done all my previous 5 cycles with test as a base. Now I wanna try a cycle without test. Thinking about 8 weeks of: NPP,MAST,WIN. 100 mg eod. 50 mg ed the last 4 weeks of the win. What do you guys think about my cutter-cycle? I`m open for improwements. Thanks.

[T-MOS]

I think your natural test will be suppressed by this and may cause you problems. You don't want to shut down your natty test without have something to supplement it. JMHO

[Critical Mass]

I wanna leave out the test because I store bodyfat easely. How much test would u recommend I do,will 50 mg eod do me good?

[honda450]

Wouldn't Test P/Tren Ace/Winny be a cutting cycle? Or a very very lean bulk at least..
But that looks good I would probably run Prop with it no matter what..

[T-MOS]

I wanna leave out the test because I store bodyfat easely. How much test would u recommend I do,will 50 mg eod do me good?

Yes that would be enough to keep your boys happy down there!

[Big]

I wanna leave out the test because I store bodyfat easely. How much test would u recommend I do,will 50 mg eod do me good?

you don't get body fat with test if your diet is right. people cut on test all the time.

[Critical Mass]

I really thought I would bulk good on tren ace/test p. And I have gained about 7-8 kg on that cycle. But I have been eating good,like a bulker. I got really hard and also a bit more vascular,all in all a good cycle I must say. Ok,I will consider buying some test. It`s true what you say,its all about ur diet. Bulk or cut. I wanna try that sometime too,to cut on something like a real bulker: test,drol,etc.

[Mammon]

oh its true... diet

[DS21]

I would run test p, tren a and masteron for the full 8 weeks.

[Critical Mass]

I just came off tren ace. I`ve heard that you must have a long break between each tren cycle. Is that not true? I would like tren better than npp for sure. But wouldn`t mast and winny be enough to keep my boys happy?

[MMArmour]

*sigh*

There is no substituted for testosterone. While all steroids are similar in structure molecularly, they are still not the same compound. You need to run test with any cycle. ANY AND ALL AAS will supress endogenous testosterone levels, and in literature ive read, especially 19nor compounds. Which tren is. Even anavar (not 19nor), which is very mild, will supress levels.